I've been a lawyer for over 20 years... So, I've met more than a couple.

Two people, in fact. First was a Hell's Angel's enforcer. Had lunch at a Chinese restaurant with him and a few other people from my former Kung Fu school. Apparently he was a former student and credibly accused of murdering a rival biker gang member, but the jury was hung and couldn't convict.

Second was none other than Shrimp Boy, after he got released from prison for the murders he committed but before he got locked up again for the racketeering charges. Met in in Chinatown literally a few days before the feds closed in on him. Shared a cup of tea with him without knowing his identity and didn't find out until someone present told me who he was days later.

I took a flight back from Europe with a colleague years ago, we talked for hours. A year later he was found guilty of killing his wife with cyanide.

People do a great job of hiding their demons in a professional setting.

When I was 18/19 in college, I met a guy through my brother's work that was in his mid 40's. We hung out with him and his girlfriend a lot and he was pretty good friends with my brother. He even met my mom and family, helped her with some construction projects she needed done (dad died when I was 15, so she didn't have that extra help), and was invited to her wedding to my step dad.

Now we knew that this guy was an ex-con (the restaurant my brother worked at hired a lot of ex-cons), but we never really judged or pried into what happened. Honestly, this guy was always just chill, giving, funny, helpful, and respectful. I never got creeped out by him, and i never felt like he was inappropriate with me. We found out through a mutual friend later that this guy used to get paid to bleach the bodies of girls/women that had been raped and killed by others. To this mutual friend's knowledge, our friend hadn't actually done any raping/killing, but I was really struggling to feel much comfort in the fact that he "only" helped guys get away with it. Especially because I was a young, petite college girl at the time.

Anyways, I dont directly know of anybody ive met that has killed someone, but the fact that I know of somebody that did this horrible thing makes me think that you're correct.

It is quite likely that someone I knew either killed a person, or had them killed.

Said potential murderer is dead for a few years now and tbh I don't think anyone wants to uncover this mystery anymore. Since the whole thing was very long ago, it's easier to just ignore it instead of ruining everyone's memory of a person. The other person who could've done it has been dead for a decade or 2 too.

I knew a guy who got imprisoned for murder, really nice guy, the way he described it was an armed robbery where the armed person got spooked and fired off a shot. They were arrested on the road while taking the victim to the hospital (they weren't trying to hurt anyone) and ended up getting booked for murder and kidnapping.

I met him a few years after he got out on probation.

Edit: fixed a typo

Unless you live in a civilised country where guns aren’t everywhere and not everyone is a war vet.

I know two that I can verify. One is a combat vet who had to kill during a fire fight in Iraq. The other is an outlaw biker who I went to school with, he shot a rival club member and a few years later got caught on a trafficking charge and somehow the police were able to connect him to the murder after his arrest. He's obviously in prison now. It's weird to know that after he committed the murder we reconnected and hung out a few times, there I was sitting at a bar laughing and joking with a killer without even knowing it.

That may be true in the US.
Most of these reasons don't apply to normal more civilized countries

Met a guy after he got out of prison for drunk driving and killing someone. I don't know the details but he wouldn't go anywhere near alcohol, so at least he's trying to be better.

Also I have met quite a few War Veterans over the years.

Yes, with their scooter at a crosswalk after a bus stop. Classic.

Yeah and several of them were my kin and were murderers. My kin were the folks who you went to when you needed someone dealt with, hell I wouldn't be surprised if my great great aunt killed someone as a favor to the Hells Angels back in the day. Let alone some of the kin I'm less close, I know at least one of them ended up in prison for murder back in the day due to some such Berdoo nonsense. Funny enough a kinsman who I only met once was also in Prison at some point and was on the bad side of the law into old age threatened to kill my sperm donor, glad he didn't kill stealing is a step to far and that sombitch belongs either to my grandmother or myself.

I have no knowledge of encountering such person, also i never met anyone who owns a gun

I was in the US Army for 6 years, soo there is that.

I grew up poor white trash in the US south, soo there is that.

I met the guy who killed my best friend. At her funeral. He was her boyfriend. He got her addicted to drugs. Technically she killed herself by OD-ing, but had he never got her addicted she’d still be alive today. I couldn’t face him. He tried to talk to be and just walked away.

My dad killed his friend in a drunk driving accident back in 1986.

Yes, he told me he did it in self-defense, in an "it's either you or me" kind of deadly dispute, and was not caught. It was an interesting story of drugs, gangs, revenge, and a dramatic ending involving a kidnapping where he was held at gunpoint by the kingpin. Sometimes I wonder if he was only testing my trust by retelling a movie, though.

Another time, I met an old-looking guy who was kidnapped by cartels and held captive for two years. He told me he had been starved and tortured and showed me a before-picture of himself where he looked incredibly built and handsome. In an effort to survive, he became one of their best assets with his ability to convince and negotiate, helping to kidnap other people until he was set free. I guess he was trauma-dumping on me.

As far as i know, i have met only one person like this.

A guy i knew in "highschool" (kinda equilevant) killed his friend a few years later while both were drunk and had just come out of sauna. He thought that his girlfriend had cheated on him with the other guy and woops, axe to the back.

I once gave a friend of a friend a condescending chewing-out after they did something hurtful.

Some time later our mutual friend informed me that they had died, but declined to tell me the cause of death.

Much later I discovered it was self-caused.

... Were my words too much? We spend our lives trying to be more effective communicators. What if we're too effective when it matters most?

I know I have. Back in 2010 or thereabouts, this guy at work who I trained to run the shift opposite of me is now in prison for multiple murders.

Anyone from Poland remember the case in the news about a guy murdering people so he could take over their property? Yeah, that one..

EDIT: Just for the record, I've known many poles over the years, and I've liked most of you. Except that guy. He was fucking weird. Don't remember his exact name, but he went by Winnie/Vinny, or something like that.

My ex-brother-in-law killed a family of four while DUI. The cops really screwed up the investigation so he was able to get the charges down to a minor moving violation. He never saw the inside of a jail.

When I was in high school a friend of a friend that I knew and had hung out with at a couple of times was a serial killer/rapist. He was one of the last people executed by that state.

Edit: My grandfather killed some Nazis in WW2. Several former coworkers killed people in the line of duty as soldiers. And, I worked as a records clerk at a nursing home, so I knew several doctors and nurses that had taken people off life support.

I killed someone. It's a called a dead name for a reason.

Yeah, I think I've met 3 murderers, two before they murdered, one after the fact.

One was mentally unstable and sad, then made fun of, second I met was kind and normal, third was dumb bulky drug dealer that was also kind.

None of them were evil or psychopaths or any of those typical traits and it made me think that to become a murdered you have to be both unlucky and triggered in a meaningful way.

I work in healthcare, I've removed... so many people from life support. I often wonder if that's, not the same, but...

If you’re old enough you’ve definitely met someone who has done at least one murder. The question is intent as you’ve said: did you meet the drunk driver or the serial killer with 50 bodies in the basement who hasn’t been caught.

Also this applies to rape and that is far more common because it is simply less reported. One of your buddies might be a person that has straight up forced a person to have sex, maybe violently

If you want to test this, start up conversations with the combat vets around you. You might not like the answers. That's the vast majority of killers I've known (that I've known).

I wonder how many people who have themselves unknowingly caused a death, though some thoughtless or innocuous action. E.g. a discarded banana peel causes another person to later slip and fall with a fatal result.

I have. I used to drink with someone who later killed someone while drinking.

Carl can fuck right off.