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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 minutes ago

Lol wtf? Why even spend 45 minutes doing that if you're going to completely block those ports?

Just tell him "no".

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

45 minutes setting up an alt vlan?

Was he getting paid by the hour?

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 89 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The real question is : Why did you invite anyone over, before having a guest VLAN set up ? Classic beginner mistake.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I have two seperate guest VLANs, one for my family, and one for the people I love.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 29 minutes ago)

Whatever happened to just talking to each other? I'm glued to my devices all day every day, yet even I ignore the phone during holiday family gatherings.

Nobody's forcing you to go; if you prefer be on the internet rather than interacting with your family, please just stay home.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 36 points 2 hours ago

What idiot IT specialist does not run a segregated VLAN for guest wifi access? That is just rude.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

This reads like a parody greentext except you know OP is a sysad so there's no fucking way he's that self-aware

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

wth is the point of a guest network if you have 443 blocked lmao.

Even my VPN port is 443 so it gets past basic port filtering because HTTPS is usually the only one allowed compared to other protocols.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Which actual IT guy supports antivirus?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Ohh fuck yes, I support antivirus, but only on Windows, maybe, possibly OSX. If you give bare Windows to a kid, they'll have viruses as soon as they learn to use Google.

TBF, Fam gets my guest network. It's not allowed to touch anything in my house, they can only route through. DHCP sends their DNS to 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8, They can't even touch my DNS, they can't see any of my home automation and they can't see each other. They can push the connection as hard as they want, the QOS won't let them take priority.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

For my son I just used APLs in group policy. Only approved apps could run. I encouraged him to be better than me and he has definitely kept me on my toes. Now he is in college for cyber security and loving it.

So far he hasn't broken anything major on his computer or the network, well, aside from messing up his BIOS a couple times... But then he got to teach me how to program EEPROM (like I said, he has kept me learning stuff I normally wouldn't).

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

EEPROM's are fun. If you want more of that, check out Ben Eater on YouTube, he has a giant series on building an 8-bit computer from scratch. he actually goes through the whole design philosophy. There's a lot of 'new' stuff in there that's not entirely boring.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 13 minutes ago

Thanks! I'll definitely check it out!

[–] cm0002@mander.xyz 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Lol generally I'll refer to the OS builtin tooling (XProtect/MS Defender) and EDRs as "Antivirus" otherwise the non-techies will freak OmG wE hAVe NO aV! And then the "anti"-viruses like mcafee and Kaspersky mysteriously spawns

And also on-demand AV software can be good for spot checks or if you're sus of something.

It's the "Real-time" shit that hooks into the kernel that needs to be avoided like the plague

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

When i was a windows person many moons ago i ran into viruses once or twice. Kaspersky was the only av in those days that effectively cleaned them from my system.

Now i am a linux dude. Where there doesnt really seem to be an effective antivirus solution because, even though malware exists, it's so fucking sophisticated and stealthy you may never know it.

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[–] pewpew@feddit.it 39 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Ok but 56kbps is just evil

eh, when the landlord moved a business into their house and expected me to keep providing IT for free, but also for the business: I rate limited them to 5kbps. just enough to say it has internet, not fast enough to use the internet without timing out on every page. I got paid the next day.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 11 points 3 hours ago

It's only considered evil if it doesn't also produce dial-up noises.

But since op didn't clarify, let's just assume evil.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 83 points 6 hours ago (7 children)

I’m very against Roblox. I know a kid who had a really hard time with online predators and a lot of it stated with Roblox. He’s 19 now. He and I were talking about it recently.

Parents think Roblox is like Minecraft bc of the aesthetics of the game. But, Roblox is not a game with a chat feature, it’s a chat room with some games. That’s a big difference.

They have 380 million users. Around 60% of the user base is under the age of 16. 40% is under the age of 12. That’s 152 million mostly unmonitored kids.

I’m sure Roblox has gotten better moderation during that time, but in our experience predators meet kids on Roblox and get them to exchange Discord or other contact info with them.

Discord is also a problem here, but that’s for another rant in another thread. If you are concerned about your kids and want to discuss it with me, feel free to message me.

TLDR: DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS PLAY ROBLOX unless you are actively monitoring the game.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 63 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure Roblox has gotten better moderation during that time

Quite the opposite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox%E2%80%93Schlep_controversy

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The younger kid's chat is disabled. not allowed to friend anyone.

The older kid has chat enabled, but is only allowed to friend people we vet.

Computers are in an open area, chats have been keylogged, we check occasionally.

If friends show up unanounced, or they chat where they're not supposed to, they lose internet access long enough to regret it

When they get old enough to have friends online, we contact the parents, make sure they're compatible politically, theologogically, just generally not extremists and their kids have some base level of dicipline and are safety minded.

We also semi-regularly play with them and set rules about the appropriateness of the games in relation to the kids ages. The younger one's don't get to play the violent ones.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Crazy, but it's almost like parenting can make the environment safer!

Lemmy likes to portray Roblox the same way the 10pm news portrayed the Internet when I was in my preteens and teen years, like it was the wild west, everyone was a predator, etc. I let my kids hop on. Their friends include me, their mom (who has an account for some reason), each other, and the kids who live across the street. They like to play the platformers, and they invite me sometimes and we play them.

They'll get older and they'll go explore the internet the same way I did. I spent my adolescence and teen years eventually in AIM chat rooms, then forums, and thn Skyping random people, and somehow didn't become a terrorist, didn't get predated. I also am of the school of thought that you need to learn things on your own, rather than have no exposure to things that could potentially be bad.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Crazy, but it’s almost like parenting can make the environment safer!

NOooooooooooo!!! We need the gubmint to impose stupid laws to protect teh children!!!!!!!!!

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[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Does the concept of Zero Trust also include Management? Asking for a friend.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 123 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (20 children)

I've only ever met two types of IT professional. Either:

  • Their home network is immaculate and smooth as butter. It connects quickly and integrates with everything. They can manage it all from their phone, but they don't have to because it's all automated. Their server room (a) exists and (b) is cable managed. There's a wireless access point and connected smart speaker in every room, including the garage and the back patio, but they're carefully located for maximum sound coverage and to prevent signal interference. Their home theater is substantially better than a movie theater, and their media server is packed to the gills with content. Network security is hardened, with bespoke subnets for every user and tunneling for the media server and smart home functions. You feel a sense of calm and ease when connected to their network. "Everything I do at work, I try out at home first."

Or:

  • Their "home network" is a single Belkin router from 2011. They've had it since college, and it takes 9 minutes to reboot (which they have to do daily). It doesn't even have Tomato on it and still uses the default password. They still watch OTA TV and Blu-Rays, so the wifi is exclusively connected to the smart switch that their tea kettle is plugged into so they can start their hot water before they come downstairs. You feel guilty even asking for the wifi password. "Why would I do any network stuff here? I do IT all day at work, the last thing I want to do is even touch a Cat5 cable at home."
[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 23 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Isn't this basically just rich IT guy vs poor IT guy?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No, it's 'my life is IT and i never stop working" guy, and "IT is just my job" guy.

I just order a new router on Black Friday to replace my 10 year old one. I also only console game now because PC gaming is too much of a headache. I spend my money on outdoor gear and pets, not technology. My new router is $90 bucks. I can't fathom why I'd ever need a wifi 7 quad band router with 9Gbps of throughput for a home network, other than pure bragging rights. All my devices are like 5-10 years old and barely support wifi 6 anyway.

A couple of my co-workers are the former. They will be doing penetration testing at 2am form their home lab in the morning because they their default mode is work work work. If i'm up at 2 am i'm watching TV and snacking.

I monitor security updates, but my co-workers like get excited and ramble on anytime a new patch/attack is documented. I don't get it. They revel in doing updates and rebuilding their VMs fresh every few weeks, I groan and clone.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 34 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

“Everything I do at work, I try out at home first.”

Absolutely no fucking way! And anything that touches work is isolated, their opsec sucks so much they didn't even realized they mandate "security solutions" with known backdoors.

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 20 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I think it means they setup new tech on their homelab to learn how everything works and how to break it. Then when a problem arises where one of these solutions is needed at work, you can implement it without any large issues. It makes sense if your hobby is close to or adjacent your day job, and you are on Salary, and your boss treats you right.

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[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 247 points 7 hours ago

Guys a madman, didn't even ask for a ticket.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 160 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Allowing children on roblox is negligence at this point so I think this is unironically in the right

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 100 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Deleting Roblox and installing Factorio

You'll thank me when you're older, kid.

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Older? Poor kid might forget to eat or drink water if you get him hooked on Factorio

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

In my generation, we lived on Mountain Dew and Cheetos, and look at the Sim Cities we built.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 3 points 1 hour ago

Look on my works Sim Mayor and

You will regret this!

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

He is doing the right thing if only because he is preventing a child from playing Roblox.

He'd be a hero if he gave him a copy of Minecraft (or really almost any non-F2P game) to play instead.

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