"civilization" vs "barbarians"
Typical speech for those trying to justify genocide.
this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2025
464 points (98.1% liked)
Canada
9467 readers
964 users here now
What's going on Canada?
Related Communities
π Meta
πΊοΈ Provinces / Territories
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Manitoba
- New Brunswick
- Newfoundland and Labrador
- Northwest Territories
- Nova Scotia
- Nunavut
- Ontario
- Prince Edward Island
- Quebec
- Saskatchewan
- Yukon
ποΈ Cities / Local Communities
- Calgary (AB)
- Comox Valley (BC)
- Edmonton (AB)
- Greater Sudbury (ON)
- Guelph (ON)
- Halifax (NS)
- Hamilton (ON)
- Kootenays (BC)
- London (ON)
- Mississauga (ON)
- Montreal (QC)
- Nanaimo (BC)
- Oceanside (BC)
- Ottawa (ON)
- Port Alberni (BC)
- Regina (SK)
- Saskatoon (SK)
- Thunder Bay (ON)
- Toronto (ON)
- Vancouver (BC)
- Vancouver Island (BC)
- Victoria (BC)
- Waterloo (ON)
- Windsor (ON)
- Winnipeg (MB)
Sorted alphabetically by city name.
π Sports
Hockey
- Main: c/Hockey
- Calgary Flames
- Edmonton Oilers
- MontrΓ©al Canadiens
- Ottawa Senators
- Toronto Maple Leafs
- Vancouver Canucks
- Winnipeg Jets
Football (NFL): incomplete
Football (CFL): incomplete
Baseball
Basketball
Soccer
- Main: /c/CanadaSoccer
- Toronto FC
π» Schools / Universities
- BC | UBC (U of British Columbia)
- BC | SFU (Simon Fraser U)
- BC | VIU (Vancouver Island U)
- BC | TWU (Trinity Western U)
- ON | UofT (U of Toronto)
- ON | UWO (U of Western Ontario)
- ON | UWaterloo (U of Waterloo)
- ON | UofG (U of Guelph)
- ON | OTU (Ontario Tech U)
- QC | McGill (McGill U)
Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.
π΅ Finance, Shopping, Sales
- Personal Finance Canada
- BAPCSalesCanada
- Canadian Investor
- Buy Canadian
- Quebec Finance
- Churning Canada
π£οΈ Politics
- General:
- Federal Parties (alphabetical):
- By Province (alphabetical):
π Social / Culture
- Ask a Canadian
- Bières Québec
- Canada Francais
- First Nations
- First Nations Languages
- Indigenous
- Inuit
- Logiciels libres au QuΓ©bec
Rules
-
Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.
Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Not a Jewish state, a Zionist state. A Jewish state would follow the Mosaic Covenant. They wouldn't covet their neighbor's property (Palestinian's land) They wouldn't kill (genocide). They wouldn't take the name of God in vein by attributing their horrible actions to their god. They wouldn't steal the land and houses from people. They wouldn't bear false witness against their neighbor by calling Palestinians terrorists for simply not giving up when their land is being stolen. A Jewish state might not be that bad, a Zionist state, on the other hand, is a fascist state. #Gaza #Genocide #Fascism #Netanyahu #Zionism #FreePalestine
Jews never agree on anything unanimously. We joke in Judaism that every small town has at least two synagogues, because of this
But as States go, you only have one full of Zionist assholes. Because the Jews in the other side are the ones that dont think there is a place for genocide, settler colonialism, and ethno-States
For this reason, there cannot be a Jewish State.
"Israeli fascist, go fuck yourself."
He sounds like Hitler when he talked about the Soviets
Imagine the lack of self-reflection to call someone a barbarian while committing genocide to steal more land from Palestine. I can't apprehend the confusion of thought necessary to think this way without starting with some blunt force trauma to the noggin.
There's no self-reflection at all.
To him, he's not committing "genocide", he's "protecting his people from terrorists".
load more comments
(1 replies)
Or just the assumed lack of self-reflection of the target audience, since this is Netanyahu and not Trump.
Didn't many leaders in Europe come out and say they're not going to arrest him when he visits?
Europe is just whispering to tell him they're fine with whatever he does. It's not just a single man's self-reflection anymore when he's been told there will not be any consequences of his actions.
Stfu and go to The Hague you fuckin low life war criminal
Well, I was on the fence about Carney, now I see he won't be totally awful for the country.
At least he answers questions comprehensively.
load more comments
(3 replies)
It boggles my mind every day that a fucking Jew would commit genocide. Goddamn.
There's assholes everywhere. A religion, ethnicity, origin, gender, sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
An asshole is gonna be an asshole.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Why? The Jews of Israel and the Jews of the Holocaust are in large part wildly unrelated and for the most part camp survivors spoke out against Israel rather coming out for it.
It's very effective propaganda on their part because most people can't be bothered to learn facts.
Conservatives are literally all the same.
load more comments
(8 replies)
Stacks of dead innocent people and he thinks the other guys are the barbarians. Irresponsible statement?! HAHAHA. Get fucked you murderous piece of shit! There is no justification for what you are doing. And who cares about your one and only state. You don't deserve it.
Ha, "civilization". So that's what they're calling genocide today. Netanyahu needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
Isn't that the standard line when it comes to people settling land with pre-existing tenants?
load more comments
(2 replies)
This is the same rhetoric that was used in Canada's genocide of indigenous peoples.
Part of reconciliation is denouncing what happened in Canada, which is still being felt today, and working towards reparations that are led by Indigenous peoples. We must learn from what happened and do better. But it is all in vain if we support the same atrocities being committed in other parts of the world.
load more comments
(3 replies)
I hate Hamas but the way Israel is dealing with this is horrible.
It doesnβt have to black and white or antisemitic to say that.
And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield, but thatβs still not an excuse for leveling entire cities and indiscriminately killing civilians, or blocking aid that you could instead be supervising.
Bibi is a fascist authoritarian, a war criminal, and is so corrupt he's facing jail when he leaves office. He is no better than Hamas.
Zionism is literally religious nationalism β which shouldn't be tolerated by ANY religion β therefore Israel IS a fascist state. Society needs to stop acting like it's okay for the abused to become the abuser because they were abused. It was never okay, and it still isn't.
He is never leaving office. In the very unlikely event that the Israeli people start to turn on him I am like 90% sure he will try to pull off a coup and/or a false flag op rather than leave peacefully and face the music
that's why he needs this war to keep going and the genocide to continue
And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield
They're not, for the most part. This is Israeli propaganda that really took hold, but there was never any evidence for the human shields stuff.
Yep it's actually Israel that has routinely and systematically employed captured Palestinians as human shields. For some background, there is this recent article in Haaretz stemming from anonymous IDF soldier reports, titled "In Gaza, Almost Every IDF Platoon Keeps a Human Shield, a Sub-army of Palestinian Slaves".
load more comments
(3 replies)
Canada has always sided with civilization
well thatβs one way of saying it
I swear the nation of israel is trying to go down with the ship that is the trump administration.
No nation, or organization should be able to get away with murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians just because they want their land.
Bibi, the Liberals are already going to win, you don't need to help them!
Good thing Canada would have to arrest him if he steps foot here. Otherwise he'd have come to 69 PP. That'd push the libs to the moon.
Ok BB Hitler.
Shit did Carney criticize Israel? He gonna get 90%in my riding anyway, but I might change from bloc to liberal if it's a proper critic.
Sort of, but he mostly walked it back. Hard to tell if he's doing it to get through the election. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-clarifies-genocide-remarks-1.7506027
What got me about it, having watched more of the clip now, is how after he 'misheard' and said "I'm aware", so much of the crowd started chanting his name. Like how are they not seeing this is what left-minded voters want.
I've always been an NDP voter and it sucks to feel like I have to vote liberal this time but it would feel so much better if they could just fucking come out and say it. Enough is enough.
Is this what triggered Bibi?? Nothing else happened?
Israel is always on a hair-trigger against the faintest whiff of criticism. It's why almost everybody of any significance is terrified of giving them even the faintest whiff of criticism even when they richly and profoundly deserve it. Dictators often fall into the same trap (aptly named the "Dictator trap") when they make their administrations and subordinates afraid to criticize them and as a result end up finding themselves surrounded by yes-men and sycophants and become increasingly disconnected from reality. Criticism is necessary and important feedback for any nation, organization or person, and by instantly denying it and calling every hint of criticism "anti-semitism" Israel have spent decades robbing themselves of the ability to use any criticism to learn and guide their own actions. It's sad, because it's actually very understandable why Israel is so sensitive to criticism after what they lived through in WW2. We are literally seeing the legacy of generational trauma on a national scale. They now hurt others because they have been hurt so badly themselves. They are even hurting themselves because they are so afraid of being hurt again.
The reason they think all their actions in Gaza are completely justified is because they have pre-emptively shouted down anyone who might give them any contrary idea. Even people who are Jewish or Israeli are accused of anti-semitism if they criticize settlers, zionism, the IDF, or anything else Israel does. When you refuse to even engage with any views contrary to your own established point of view, you're creating an information bubble which may or may not have any basis in reality, and you'll never even be able to know whether your position is based in reality or not because you're simply not engaging with any other views that could ground you in reality.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(2 replies)
Netanyahu was going to be put in prison for life after being convicted on corruption charges before he let the October attack happen and then declared martial law.
He should be hung upside down and shot a million times
view more: next βΊ