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[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I hate Hamas but the way Israel is dealing with this is horrible.

It doesn’t have to black and white or antisemitic to say that.

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield, but that’s still not an excuse for leveling entire cities and indiscriminately killing civilians, or blocking aid that you could instead be supervising.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

The main thing is that Isreal intentionally blocked and prevented critical aid from reaching a starving population of civilians. Thats the core of the genocide case because it demonstrates motive and intentionality to hurt only the civilian population. The report that revealed this was what flipped my opinion from supporting isreals response and war objectives.

People call bombing buildings and killing civilians genocide but its an expected part of this type of war. If the enemy hides among the civilian population you can kill the civilian population. If the enemy hides in buildings and booby traps them, you can destroy the buildings.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Bibi is a fascist authoritarian, a war criminal, and is so corrupt he's facing jail when he leaves office. He is no better than Hamas.

Zionism is literally religious nationalism — which shouldn't be tolerated by ANY religion — therefore Israel IS a fascist state. Society needs to stop acting like it's okay for the abused to become the abuser because they were abused. It was never okay, and it still isn't.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

He is never leaving office. In the very unlikely event that the Israeli people start to turn on him I am like 90% sure he will try to pull off a coup and/or a false flag op rather than leave peacefully and face the music

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that's why he needs this war to keep going and the genocide to continue

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The only people using human shields are the IDF

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude, both sides are committing these war crimes

But the number of crimes is magnitudes greater committed by the Israelis

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago

Really? The only "evidence" I've seen of Palestine using human shields is Israeli accusations, while I've seen multiple instances of video evidence, taken by Israel itself, of the IDF doing it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield

They're not, for the most part. This is Israeli propaganda that really took hold, but there was never any evidence for the human shields stuff.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Yep it's actually Israel that has routinely and systematically employed captured Palestinians as human shields. For some background, there is this recent article in Haaretz stemming from anonymous IDF soldier reports, titled "In Gaza, Almost Every IDF Platoon Keeps a Human Shield, a Sub-army of Palestinian Slaves".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

If anyone is distorting rules of engagement and humanitarian law, it's actually Israel. Something that has come up again and again, especially in the writing of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese, is the concept of "humanitarian camouflage" and how the Israeli state has very deliberately misused terms of international humanitarian law to cynically redefine civilian people, structures, and infrastructure as military targets. I am going to quote from an article she co-authored (available here):

The article analyzes the components of this humanitarian camouflage, unveiling how it has been deployed by Israel as a legal-political strategy in the service of a war of total annihilation. We start by examining how, since October 7, Israel has justified its genocidal campaign in Gaza using two registers: on one hand, a brutal register of dehumanization of the Palestinian population of Gaza, construed as a terrorist population to be eliminated; on the other hand—and simultaneously—a liberal register to legitimize its eliminationist violence in the face of its international allies’ audience, disguising it as compliance with IHL.

We then expand the analysis of the second register, showing how the Israeli military, mimicking IHL language, has construed the entirety of the built-up areas of Gaza as a continuum of alleged military objectives, reclaiming the ‘right’ to ‘lawfully’ raze houses, schools, mosques, churches, hospitals, entire neighborhoods, and entire cities to the ground, including the infrastructures indispensable for the survival of the civilian population, rendering the living space of the victim group unlivable. Subsequently, we examine how lethal distortions of the IHL concept of proportionality and collateral damage have been functional in construing entire masses of civilians as killable surroundings of military objectives with a diminished, or non-existent, right to life.

The analysis continues by showing how an array of IHL concepts like safe zones, evacuations, human shields, and “hospital shields” have been mobilized by Israel as technologies of settler-colonial displacement and genocide, creating conditions of life leading to the destruction of Gaza’s Palestinians “in whole or in part.” The article concludes by arguing that the settler-colonial genocidal war against Gaza, and Israel’s marshalling of international humanitarian law to legitimize it, ultimately shows that the international order has reached a tipping point whereby political acquiescence towards Israel and its legitimization as an international law-abiding state eviscerates the key legal tools the international community has developed to prevent international crimes. If tolerated, condoned, and unpunished, this process may inaugurate a new era of mass atrocities against protected groups in the Global South, in which big powers will be able to portray genocides as ‘incidental’ and ‘proportionate’ means to achieve their war aims.

I highly recommend reading the three reports issued by the UN on these matters, "Genocide as colonial erasure" which focuses more on historical context, "Anatomy of a genocide" which covers more of the present patterns of conflict, and finally "More than a human can bear" which covers the widespread and systematic use of gendered and sexual violence inflicted on Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You realize Hamas is a government, right?

They employ social workers, civil engineers, etc.

Its fine to hate their military, but dont hate the guy picking up the garbage or laying water mains.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hate the taliban too, and they’re a government.

I don’t have anything against the common Palestinian just trying to live their life or working in the hospitals.

I think it’s very clear who the problem people are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I think it’s very clear who the problem people are.

Yeah, the ones running Israel