Bullet Heaven
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This is the one I always hear these days.
I heard it from the Castle Superbeast podcast.
Yup, this is the one.
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Garliclike
lol saw this on a Steam Review and it is my favorite.
It's an autoshooter isn't it?
Vampire Survivors would be a rogue-like autoshooter.
Like Backpack Battles is an autobattler.
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As raised in the comments, actually a rogue-lite as VS has meta-progression.
I've also heard Autoshooter. Seems as good of a genre name as any.
I don't know why people keep calling it rogue like. Rogue-likes have a lot more randomness than an easily manipulated item drop system. I don't know that a random map is a necessity but it certainly needs something along those lines.
Rogue had you start from scratch with a new character in a random map every time.
Rogue-like games initially meant you start from scratch in a new random world, but you incrementally improve your experience by small buffs you can buy, or changing your starting equipment / skills (sometimes by changing out which character you start as).
Rogue-like has slowly changed to mean "start over regularly but slowly unlock new items/buffs/equipment/characters/etc to help you further explore a world which may or may not be random"
So it applies to games like Risk of Rain (and 2), Balatro, Dead Cells, and Rogue Legacy, just to name a few examples (though 3 of those are 2d platformers with randomly generated worlds if I remember right...).
But yeah it seems to have morphed into a broadly used term for games where you get better over time through purchasing permanent buffs and whatnot (as well as natural skill), but are forced to restart any time you die.
Vampire Survivors and other similar style games have you constantly restarting when you die so I think the term fits as a partial descriptor.
Maybe we could adopt the idle/clicker game term Prestige, but that's more of a voluntary restart when you hit a wall and can't progress, so I don't think it quite works.
For a while people tried to differentiate roguelikes, which maintained the lack of metaprogression, with roguelites, which did have progression. But that was pretty clearly a losing battle, the two names were far too similar to stay distinct as long as one or the other took off. Some few pendants still try to maintain the distinction, but that ship sailed ages ago.
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Bullet heaven is likely what will stick. If you don't like that it's also the name of a game, consider that metroidvania contains the name of two games.
Metroidvania is a stupid name and always has been. I say this with those 2 series being 2 of my favourite and metroidvania being one of my favourite genres.
Bullet heaven isn't too bad though.
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I thought it was already considered a reverse bullet-hell. But I do like Bullet heaven as well.
I've heard from at least one smaller channels that it's a bullet heaven. That's at least what they call this style of game.
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They're already called reverse bullet hell?
What in the heck is a reverse bullet hell? If a bullet hell is "so many bullets" then I have to image it's like... Not many bullets at all. That sounds too easy.
Normal bullet hell (Touhou): the enemies shoot a hell of bullets at you. And your job is to avoid it. Reverse bullet hell (Vampire Survivors): you shoot a hell of bullets at the enemies. And your job is to shoot even more, bigger, stronger bullets.
Just like Vampire Survivors!
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Other comments said it but I think bullet heaven is perfect
I've heard "reverse bullet hell", it's decent.
I only heard bullet heaven
MOBA - massive onslaught bullet arena
FPS- Frantic Progression Survivor
RPG - Running, Progressively Gaining
Let's just stick with survivor, or survivor-like. It works fine for roguelikes and soulslikes. No need to force a genre name.
Too late it's Vamvor.
Vampvore
roots in voreaphilia
Vampier
Survivor
Digital crack
Dragon chaser
Freebase gaming
Addiction "simulator"
passive swarm shooter
I always thought of it as a Hord game
Walking Death Simulator
Attack-Evader
Pew Pew Woosh.
Epilepsy-vania
GPU Fryer.
S3: Survive and Shoot the Swarm.
Twi-like
I've always heard Arena Survival
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