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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago
Olde Modern Count
Abortive, and Stillborn Abortion and Stillbirth 445
Affrighted Fear? Possibly a heart issue? 1
Ague Malaria, or a disease involving fever and shivering 43
Apoplex, and Meagrom Stroke and severe headache, migraine 17
Bit with a mad dog Rabies 1
Bleeding Blood loss 3
Bloody flux, scowring and flux Dysentery and cholera 348
Bruised, Issues, sores and ulcers Bruising, open sores, either as a symptom of something else (hemorrhagic fever) or because they got infected 28
Burnt, and Scalded Same 5
Burst, and Rupture Probably an externally visible rupture 9
Cancer and Wolf Cancer and Lupus 10
Canker Mouth sores, maybe from herpes? Probably not the underlying cause of death 1
Childbed Death following complications from childbirth 171
Chrisomes, and Infants Babies less than 1 month old and Infants 2268
Cold, and Cough Same (but probably a symptom of something worse) 55
Colick, Stone, and Strangury Gallstones, kidney stones, and other intestinal and urinary blockages 56
Consumption Tuberculosis 1797
Convulsion Seizure, possibly caused by epilepsy 241
Cut of the Stone Died during surgery to remove kidney / gallstones 5
Dead in the street, and starved Exposure, hypothermia, starvation 6
Dropsie, and Swelling Edema, fluid retention, possibly caused by heart failure 267
Drowned Same 34
Executed, and prest to death Executed is obvious, "prest to death" is accidental death while being tortured (via pressing) to force a confession 18
Falling sickness Epilepsy, perhaps "petit mal" seizures vs "grand mal" which went under Convulsion 7
Fever Same, interesting that it's distinct from Ague 1108
Fistula Same, horrific, distinct from childbed -- I guess the women lived a bit longer? 13
Flocks, and small Pox Smallpox and other diseases causing pustules 531
French pox Syphilis 12
Gangrene Same 5
Gout Gout, or inflammatory arthritis, not the underlying cause of death, but a clear symptom 4
Grief Modern medicine would be more specific but... 11
Jaundies Jaundice, liver disease 43
Jawfaln Fallen jaw, lockjaw, tetanus 8
Impostume Abcess, a symptom of an infection 74
Kil'd by several accidents Trauma, I assume 46
King's Evil Scrofula or Mycobacterial cervical lymphadenitis 38
Lethargie Chronic fatigue, a symptom of something else 2
Livergrown Swollen liver, possibly cirrhosis from drinking 87
Lunatique Lunatic, mental illness -- curious about the actual cause of death though 5
Made away themselves Suicide 15
Measles Same 80
Murthered Murdered 7
Over-laid and starved at nurse A smothered baby, either accidentally or on purpose, starved from lack of milk 7
Palsie Paralysis, Parkinson's, similar things 25
Piles Hemorrhoids, not a cause of death, but a source of infections and an obvious symptom 1
Plague same 8
Planet Sudden death thought to be related to something astrological (planet alignment) 13
Pleurisie, and Spleen Pleurisy (chest infection), apparently it can sometimes be caused by damage to the spleen? 36
Purples and spotted Feaver Bruising and spotted fever (tick borne disease), distinct from bruising, listed earlier 38
Quinsie Quinsy, Peritonsillar abscess, can cause many other things 7
Rising of the Lights Fluid in the lungs, possibly caused by croup 98
Sciatica Same, possibly caused by spinal disc herniation 1
Scurvey, and Itch Ye Scurvy dogs! Ye been sailing with yer limes! 9
Suddenly um... 62
Surfet Surfeit, overeating, overdrinking, not fatal on its own, but perhaps blamed when it was the underlying reason 86
Swine Pox Possibly a euphemism for "French Pox"? 6
Teeth Probably children dying at an age when their permanent teeth were coming in. Similar to "Chrisomes" named for the cloth used when christening a child. Either that or serious tooth infections that led to complications. 470
Thrush, and Sore mouth Thrush (Candidiasis) could make it hard to eat or drink, or lead to other infections 40
Tympany Excess gas in the gastrointestinal tract making the belly like a drum, many potential underlying causes 13
Tissick A wasting disease, often associated with a cough 34
Vomiting Long term vomiting can cause dehydration, might also have been used for someone choking on vomit and dying from asphyxiation 1
Worms Ugh. 27
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I have so many questions about some of these. Cut of the stone, king's evil, Planet, rising of the lights, teeth... I'm mostly curious what king's evil is in this context. Gonna go look Edit: per the link it's scrofula.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Teeth might be dental infections. Those can get nasty if untreated.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's interesting how there's a hint of science here, but so much non-science.

Like, trying to categorize things is a bit scientific. Trying to distinguish between similar but different things is a bit scientific. At the same time, so many of these causes of death are symptoms not causes. And, there are too many cases where they didn't bother to try to find a cause, like the "Planet" cases or "Suddenly". Also, almost all of the deaths are in children / infants, but in those cases they don't try to figure out the cause of death, they just note the age.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

“Suddenly” 😂

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You guys are all laughing about 'planet,' but I'll have you know my uncle died of a cerebral hemorrhage when Neptune hit him on the back of the head. And we all thought it was just a glancing blow, but two days later, he dropped dead right in the middle of the supermarket.

You won't laugh so hard when it happens to someone you care about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Imagine being proudly offed by Pluto and then they make it not a planet any more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And so they have to change it to "celestial body" in the obituary

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Kill'd by several accidents

When the universe is out to get you, but you survive the first accident

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Killed by several accidents."

lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hah! Gonna take more'n ONE accident to kill me, you bastards!!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Kil'd to death 💀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wolf is an old name for Lupus, which of course is Latin for wolf.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It took me a will to figure out it was not a joke...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

This will make a useful crib sheet for reading the causes of death in the US next year under Health Tsar RFK Jnr .

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Probably speaking of lupus. The only reason that somehow makes any sense 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Over-laid" sounds like death by snu-snu.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I volunteer!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Made away themselves.

Ah British dancing around the point terms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

We’d still say “done away with themself”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Just trying to avoid the YouTube censors

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is King's Evil and why did so many die from it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Spelling "Lunatic" as "Lunatique" now. Shout out to the poor folks that just died in the street and starved. Surprised it's only 6.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most that would die in the street would have an underlying condition, like ague or bleeding or even old age, since most people that starve would try to do something about it.

If you're sick you might not be able to. If you find a job or charity successfully you've averted the death. If you tried to steal and fail you'll get on the executed list, or if you got wounded but got away, you'll be on the bleeding list, or if you succeed then you dont die on the street.

I imagine those six would have the "died of unknown causes" phrase attached to them in modern times.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Bit with a mad dog

This makes it seem like someone wielded the dog as a weapon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I saw this list on hidden killers of the Tudor home (even though this list is post-Tudor era). The specifically spoke about the 'teeth' part.

Basically what that mean was that a variety of tooth decay and oral issues pertaining to the teeth. This was an era that first saw a large consumption of sugar (which as you know LOVES to fuck with teeth) by wealthier people and coupled with a nonexistent oral hygiene practice and dentistry. Basically people's teeth would decay and cause gum disease or simply a shitload of pain that even the painful teeth pulling couldn't fully fix.

One thing that you must remember is that prior to widespread sugar availability most people's teeth were remarkably fine throughout life as people's diets didn't contain enough crap that will mess your teeth up. Of course this isn't to say that it was perfect. Braces would have been a good thing to have for many people and a simple toothbrush with half decent toothpaste would have been a very welcomed thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

People don't understand that dental disease can lead to heart attacks/life threatening conditions

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Does "murthered" mean murdered? If so I'm surprised there's only one. TV and movies make it look like life was cheap in old timey London.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks. That’s helpful. And because I had to know:

Among unfathomable “Diseases and Casualties,” Planet (or plannet) was “likely a shorthand for “planet-struck [because] Many medical practitioners believed the planets influenced health and sanity.” The label applied to any sudden illness or death, such as a heart attack or aneurysm, according to “15 Historic Diseases that Competed with Bubonic Plague.”

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