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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 78 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Plants probably do have their own version of feelings, like any living organism. Just not human ones.

[–] Airfried@piefed.social 29 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Trees and Mushrooms are known to communicate. If you fell a tree, the whole forest will know within minutes. Whether they have feelings or not I can't tell.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

C'mon, plants can't be intelligent! Our top scientists and science fiction writers have proven it!

(Now will anyone actually get the reference)

[–] bumblebeer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You can't just be spouting off crazy shit like this online and not citing your sources!

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 36 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The smell of grass cutting is a warning to other grass.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

A warning to do what? Run?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago

To get their affairs in order

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 38 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

From what I understand it's a pheromone(?) reaction that causes the grass to send water and nutrients lower down into the plant, so they can more easily survive being grazed on / lawnmowered.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 21 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

There are evolutionary mechanisms that let many plants excrete foul tasting or smelling compounds when they’re alerted to nearby danger, from their other leaves being eaten, or those nearby that release warning compounds.

Plants also work in tandem with fungus and other microbial life to sort of message needs to get support for survival, possibly defense as well.

[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

There are a bunch of people who've bought into the enchanting myth that plants feel things and "scream in pain".

It's not really surprising since most people don't know botany or plant psychology, but love a nice TED talk.

Plants Neither Possess nor Require Consciousness: Trends in Plant Science

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Paywall so I can't actually read the whole article but from the abstract:

Based on a survey of the brain anatomy, functional complexity, and behaviors of a broad spectrum of animals, criteria were established for the emergence of consciousness.

"We've drawn an arbitrary line around 'consciousness' and have decided what's on either side" isn't exactly the concrete dismissal they seem to think it is.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 1 points 26 seconds ago

Not arbitrary: consciousness is a defined word with historical meaning. "Consciousness comes from the Latin word conscious, which means "knowing with" or "having joint knowledge." The term evolved in English during the 17th century, with its modern meaning relating to awareness of one's own mind first appearing in the late 1600s."

You have arbitrarily redefined consciousness, implicitly by context to include any response to the environment. What good is epistemology if a plant's hormonal action implies self awareness?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think people liken it to human consciousness because that's what they know, but I think most people understand that's an abstraction and the reality is much more sciencey and nuanced

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago

Plant psychology 🤣

[–] imadethis@fedinsfw.app 11 points 18 hours ago

The typical smell from cut grass is actually microbes. The soil is very much disturbed by the way we cut grass (not talking about reaping hay/wheat/etc here, just your typical suburbanite with a lawn mower). I can't remember what they are now for the life of me, but the microbiology professor at my college loved explaining to the younguns that the reason the local water tasted/smelled bad (compared to most places) was that the same variety of microbe responsible for the cut grass smell was present in high concentrations in the source for the city water. Once he pointed it out, you could pick out the similarity.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I too love the smell of suffering.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

"how do you know YOU aren't an LLM???? Hmmm???"

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sam Altman hasn't tried to flip me over and steal ram from me.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago

Give him time.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 29 points 21 hours ago

Because my water usage is very low.

[–] Tartufo@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If I am the dipshit running me should just pull the damn plug already and never put it back in.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We might not understand intelligence. Plants might be "intelligent". At minimum we know that plants communicate within their cells and with each other and that they can learn.

I like to fantasize that a large oak is a huge mass of neural tissue and that alder stand that is the largest organism or something is a super brain.

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

In that case Pando might tickle your fancy.