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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 244 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use those to train my AI though. It’s not piracy if there’s money.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago

“Sonarr has escaped containment 😱!!!”

[–] FoxAlive@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 month ago

It was openai or meta that claimed because they didn't seed the torrent that it wasn't really piracy.

So piracy only starts becoming bad when it takes the form of communism/socialism lol.

The theft for a major corperation? Thats just good ol reliable capitalism.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 133 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff. These tens of billions they talk about don't exist.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 96 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Non of the people pirating content have money to buy more stuff

How DARE you!

My piracy is morally; not financially driven

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Mine is accessibility driven.

Oh, wanted to watch that series from last year to end? Too bad, it's gone now.

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mine's mostly financial, my moral objection is to streaming shows where, even if you have money, you can't buy the show on DVD.

Though I wonder if streaming legally and ripping illegally would be the next viable option. Netflix's 720p streams are largely unprotected.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you're using a semi colon, you need to make sure it's a stand-alone sentence on both sides.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I would be surprised if most US politicians are capable of understanding the concept of duplicating files on a computer

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You are correct. It's like expecting car salesmen to be able to understand how to do brain surgery.

Most politicians are failed lawyers. And if they are too incompetent or corrupt to be representing people or entities in court, they sure are hell shouldn't be making calls about anything in society or in the political realm. And that obviously includes technology.

Remember when late Alaska Senator Ted Stevens described (with great confidence) that the Internet "is like a series of tubes"? Classic example of their wider incompetence right there.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

You think they care about things like facts, or logic? No. This is, and always has been about control.

Even the business side of things know piracy doesn't actually hurt business, it helps it. They've conducted studies on this since 2004. They found that the vast majority of pirates are actually the biggest spenders. They found more often than not a pirate will download a movie, or an album or a game, or whatever. Then within a month buy that same thing they just pirated.

Thats the reason you used to see these record labels try to stop piracy back in the days of kazaa and napster, and limewire. There used to be lawsuits where they'd sue some household for 20 million dollars. Knowing they don't have it. Well what ended up happening is they ended up suing this elderly man who had no idea what limewire was. He didn't know how to use a computer. And the only one who used the computer was the 8 year old boy, who now had to live with his grandpa, because both his parents were killed by a drunk driver. Now this record label was trying to put his grandfather 20 million in debt. For someone who had no idea who the black eyed peas. When they kept asking him about it, he asked why they kept asking him about soup if this was about music theft.

As the case went on, it was revealed that between his parents, and other family members, he had a cd collection, including the albums accused of stealing, worth over $5,000 worth of cds.

The whole thing turned the public against record labels, and painted them as the bad guys for trying to ruin peoples lives over music. To this day I haven't heard of another time they tried that tactic.

And the republicans know this.

You have to remember one thing. The cruelty is the point. It doesn't need to make sense. It just needs to punish their enemies. And at times even punish their own base. I saw a story last night where a guy who voted for trump was complaining that insulin used to be $6, and now it's $80 under trumps new plan. And he said "I didn't think it would happen to ME!"

And thats where we are right now. Just leaving the fuck around stage. Now entering the find out portion of our journey.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 116 points 1 month ago

Thank GOD! ONLY Billionaires should be Allowed to Pirate EVERYTHING EVER MADE!

-Republicans!

[–] CalemitousVariantK@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Meta, X, and ChatGPT have all automated mass piracy of art, music, articles, and anything their genAI touches. Surely you mean to start there?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its only illegal when peasants do it, not when billionaires do it. *

*it being anything.

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They want to lock down file sharing so no one else can use the data to build AI now that they have it

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piracy keeps the poors occupied and busy so they don’t riot. There’s no blood left to squeeze from that rock, they’re not going to buy streaming. Games are in decline as systems die of go outdated, and corporate erodes the quality of development.

They’re idiots if they push this bill in earnest.

Look what happened the last time people had too much time on their hands (Covid). And everyone has a lot more to pissed about, now.

[–] mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Your last paragraph crossed my mind recently as the oil prices really start to spiral out of control. There were so many protests bordering on riots because people were stuck at home due to covid - now we're already hearing news that truckers are starting to sit idle instead of driving at a loss.

Imagine how much free time and how much anger everyone will have when the economy grinds to a halt from product shortages all over the country.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

meaning, "Block whichever sites we say."

Yet another FREEDOM bill from the Party of FREEDOM

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[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago

Oh, I run a new company called FaceMeta, and this is all being stolen for “training” - therefore perfectly 100% legal according to capitalism

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (5 children)

how do they plan to enforce this with foreign VPNs?

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't try to explain technology to them. It won't work.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You see, it's a series of tubes...

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

they'll try to pass it anyway. if republicants lose majority, it'll be a horrific couple of months as they try to ram and cram every piece of shit legislation they can think of through before the new session starts.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Make those illegal too probably

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[–] eah@programming.dev 57 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 52 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It'd really be nice if "Huh. This protects corporate interests more than taxpayer interests. Denied." was a thing in government.

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Issa argued that online piracy helps fund terrorist groups and other criminal networks. ". I never thought of AI companies as terrorists, but it's a good label for the harm it's caused

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Um... Piracy funds terrorist groups? Handing out software for free earns money?

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[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a seedbox in a country that gives no fucks, so I'll just use a DNS provider in a country that gives no fucks. You can make it harder, but you can't make it impossible.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And it's not like it's so much harder to press a few extra buttons. Bonus: you're safer online, so if anyone wants to go down the road, they'll just be safer online.

They're all a bunch of fucking idiots, the people making these bills.

[–] upandatom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wish people would realize they are NOT idiots.

This erodes privacy and allows character assassinations on anyone who wants to be safe and/or private by using those VPN that do not comply. Is your mega ISP really going to stand up for your rights under this? Can you really get a new ISP at the "press of a few buttons"?

You aren't the only one here not understanding how "this doesn't directly affect me" bc you have the technical skills to avoid it. It does affect you, even if only by the chilling effect of it being more difficult to discuss online.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

soo many stupid things with this... but this one i thougt funny.. its like the poopholeloophole... restaurant wifi is exempt

It would also exclude Wi-Fi networks offered on the premises of airports, libraries, restaurants, retail stores, and similar establishments.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wonder if someone is going to go around chucking solar enabled pi’s onto the roofs of fast food joints and set them up with wireguard or headscale and sell it as proxy network.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tossing self-powering rogue access points onto roofs to get around fascistic legal censorship by proxy of VPNs through McDonalds is one of the most we-have-entered-the-Matrix sentences ever.

Someone should submit this technique as an article to 2600

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[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

For people who hate the government, they sure like using it to oppress everyone else.

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[–] londos@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it'll block ChatGPT and others?

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago

Piracy is only okay for AI companies.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

“Site-blocking orders force any service provider, from residential broadband providers to global DNS resolvers, to disrupt traffic from targeted websites simply accused of copyright infringement.”

I know a few sites I can accuse of copyright infringement... (x, M$, FB, etc.)

[–] LeftReddit2@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago

Laughs in I2P

[–] ki4jgt@feddit.org 21 points 1 month ago

There are literally open DNS providers who run their own networks. Good luck.

[–] Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait until critizism of The Glorious Party and Our Beloved Supreme Leader is considered "piracy".

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We got a DNS-based censorship law in Denmark ages ago. It was strictly for blocking child pornography. Today the list also includes: Unlicensed gambling sites, piracy, as well as a handful of sites that "doesn't contain CSAM or other obviously illegal content" (old source, but nothing has really changed except probably the amount of websites on the list)

Censorship will never be limited to what it was first set in motion for. It is just too powerful and it is too tempting to not expand it to cover other "nuisances" a government or its lobbyists might have. If the barrier of entry is just adding a new string to a list, they're gonna add that string to the list.

And if you want to circumvent it you just point your DNS to Quad9, Cloudflare, Google, or any of the DNS services that doesn't implement the filter (including at least one Danish DNS service), so in essence it is pretty useless for the target groups it's meant for.

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[–] Cheese_man@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] lol_idk@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Couldn’t you use a VPN to VPN to another country that doesn’t block piracy sites, then use a VPN to pirate?

[–] stephen@lazysoci.al 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, and you should probably be doing that now anyway.

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

An who decides what is piracy? The facists? This is a bad idea.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Oh look a distraction that also gets corporate donors. Its also divisive and gets people talking.

Probably the most pressing issue of the day. Surely there is nothing else to work on.

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