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[–] aev_software@programming.dev 107 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Let's also ban it for teachers who create educational materials. My kids receive and work with such materials and it's wrong so often and deeply, the teachers can't even explain how to solve problems.

[–] Glide@piefed.ca 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As a teacher, I can't agree enough. I'm really tired of being handed slop from my coworkers, and then having to weigh the social implications of explaining to them how I know it is slop and why this particular case of slop is bad. The amount of energy I have to spend deconstructing their use of AI, and then translating and validating that deconstruction to them, doesn't match the effortlessness with which they pump out more slop and leave me frustrated that I have to do this every time.

Just ban it from use in elementary and secondary schools, please.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yep. And then, in high school, give them plenty of chances to check-out and critique the LLMs. Good factual criticism skills are very valuable in most of life (they include not ruining the effect by being a snotty fart).

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[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 119 points 6 days ago (14 children)

It should be banned at every level of education, and in every government department, doctors office, hospital etc just for a start.

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 39 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Banned unless utility is proven.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Just utility? I can probably generate a bunch of school textbooks, fan fiction stories and children books with generative AI. Put them on some print on demand service and once some sorry soul is fooled and buys them, it's some utility. At least to me...

I think it's super involved to assess utility in a good way. Not even the large companies know whether AI coding makes their workforce more or less productive once everything is factored in. So, if it's the kind of utility they're looking for. And then there will be downsides so we gotta balance and weigh everything...

If you're putting it there as some impossible first step to do... Well done 😄

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[–] likebudda@reddthat.com 45 points 5 days ago (2 children)

One generation from "don't trust wikipedia" to "just ask chatGPT."

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They still say "don't trust wikipedia," btw.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

At least WPedia has decent references onboard for backup. The only GPT I've seen offer (2) references is at DDG.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't trust peer reviewed sourced material, trust this black box that gives you answers.

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 3 points 4 days ago

Getting its information from Wikipedia

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 15 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I don't get it.
Weren't schools telling children to "comply", just a few weeks ago?

I still remember having marks deducted in junior school for answering that the light does not turn on instantly after switching the button on.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 59 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I understand the intention, but I'd argue high school is where its at the most corrosive. High school is where kids are forming their independent learning habits - we're already seeing the effects of AI becoming a crutch at this point in the game.

It makes even the smartest kids thick as pig shit because they start to depend on it, in the same way a lot our generation's handwriting went down the shitter because of computers.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

in the same way a lot our generation's handwriting went down the shitter because of computers.

I'm not saying this because I'm a millennial but apparently we're the "last normal" generation because we didn't grow up as much with AI, social media and smartphones and tablet which does everything as we wish. Social media back then was for funsies, where your posts are for friends and family to cherish and not for the whole world to see. The smartphones only came later in our lives rather than thrust upon us when we were babies. Then of course, we didn't use AI until now. Millenials and the older folks have had to do most things ourselves.

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[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

A lot of adults have yet to learn this...

[–] Foni@piefed.zip 26 points 5 days ago

The fact that this phrase is revolutionary and newsworthy makes this world so dystopian that it's hard to believe.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 26 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The number of new nurses / doctors who auto-piloted their way through school is fucking staggering.

There're no checks, they just take ChatGPT's vomit at face value.

Then they start working, and they're just bad.

AI needs to be banned from education, period. Think with your own brain.

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Why are so many people seemingly against this?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Maybe we should take an example from Warhammer 40k, and just ban all "abominable intelligences.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fucking hell. High school is where they start to learn to think for themselves the most.

[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Even more so, university students are truly becoming independent adults. Really, it should be banned for everyone, but that's not likely to happen.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The health of the nation requires a citizenry capable of critical thinking to draw upon to manage and direct the fate of the nation. Now, obviously, the wealthy don't want anyone but themselves to be capable of such a thing. So here we are.

[–] Renat@szmer.info 3 points 4 days ago

My college teacher be like: "I add AI to my Outlook email so it can automatically reply to emails using a lot of words"

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (22 children)

You can go read on r/teachers (https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Teachers) just how bad this shit is getting--both phone use, and AI use for assignments.

We seriously need to completely ban both phones and AI use in grade school. Back to pencil and paper, and "show your work". The kids coming out of high school now can barely read, beyond texting. It's frightening.

If you give a fuck about your kids, you'll make sure they can read and write, because the schools don't give a fuck about your kids.

[–] Kaerkob@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Teachers give a fuck. Unfortunately we refuse to adequately fund schools and don't give teachers the latitude to teach.

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[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

To be fair using it in primary school or earlier is probably the most damaging thing you could do to yourself with it

Maybe he didn't ban high school because 1. Kids with smartphones will be accessing it anyway, and if it's "banned" teachers will go 'well this can't have been written by AI because AI is banned in high school, yup!"

And 2. It might better facilitate them to giving lessons on the harms of AI

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They should ban that shit until you graduate college.the kids who are nerds will always figure out a way. The rest who are not into computers and such definitely should stay the fuck away. If you're not careful you'll become a zombie that works to pay for access to his brains as a rental subscription.

That's just so messed up. It should not just be banned but down right illegal to sell an AI subscription if the data used was stolen from the public in the first place.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

Hell, I think it's more important to ban it in high school.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

It's a start.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 12 points 5 days ago

Mamdaniiiiiiiii!!! ~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I remember having study hall twice a week in high school and wondering why I didn’t just have a block of time like that every day to complete my assignments. It seems that having something like this with faculty supervising may be the only way to ensure AI isn’t being used.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mamdani is giving me major mayor dysmorphia.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Then teach them media literacy and critical thinking skills.

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