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[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Modern capitalism derives it's scarcity via artificial means such as legislation.

The only thing this does is restrict the means of information to the people of NYC. Have you used traditional web search for health/legal/etc. advice? Even pre-2015 if you didn't know what you're doing you would get the most unhinged, predatory, incorrect advice imaginable, but legislating away access wasn't going to make health information more correct, accurate, or equitable. It would've just further entrenched the predatory health/legal/etc. industry as the gatekeepers of that knowledge.

This is no different.

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I understand the sentiment but I think this is too far of a pushback. Restricting access to information even though it may be inaccurate or misleading isn't the right answer. AI is a tool. I'd wager, force a prompt to specifically be visible whenever subjects break that. Essentially the cigerette equivelant "THIS PRODUCT KILLS YOU" but something like "AI RESPONSES TO MEDICAL INFORMATION SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS ACCURATE."

I feel like this logic should of banned search engines since they could provide links to sites with misinformation.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

AI shouldn’t be an excuse to take a job, it can be a tool but that’s it

I'm careful about laws, i ask for a summary then ask to cite the source for the relevant bits. I'm not asking for legal advice, I want to know what the letter of the law says. Google has always struggled with this.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago

Add edibility of wild plants to the list please

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

This is super dumb. People will just Google their questions instead, and get worse results.

[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Grok is this real?

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I really think this is a bad idea these should really just be flagged, there's many situations where asking these questions in necessary and there's few if any other ways to get an answer

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 6 points 9 hours ago

Sorta agree. Maybe force them to have a very obvious sign that says AI is routinely wrong about these topics specifically and are not a source to consider reliable, and then also offer a helpline where one can get reasonable answers even if the answer is "unfortunately you need to seek expert opinion on this"

But googling basic labor laws and simple healthcare tricks should be acceptable like stretches for wrist or knee pain, skin/hair care or what level of diarrhea is hospital worthy should be fine.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Or just require the AI to summarize and provide citations?

I started using Gemini, not because I like AI, but because Google search is next to useless now. Its pay to win.

I chose Gemini because it actually gives you the sources at the bottom of most queries it uses Google search to answer.

I don't trust its answers, because it often tries to give an answer instead of a summary. But I don't have to because I can go right to the sources it shares.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 6 points 5 hours ago

Even the citations are often wrong or hallucinations...

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Maybe I'm just ignorant about this, but it feels a bit "gatekeepy" to outlaw answering questions about the law itself. Like... so I can't use an LLM to help do taxes? Or if I'm served a confusing legal document, I have to pay an expensive attorney to understand the legalese? I can't even just get a rough idea from an LLM first?

EDIT: Also I've literally had a professional accountant send me a ChatGPT conversation they had because they didn't know tax law well enough. I feel like if anything that should be outlawed. Professionals should actually have to know shit and know how to research primary sources.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I would say its to protect people, if you ask a LLM for a legal answer and trust it, then you could get into legal trouble when it turns out to be wrong.
Not only are LLMs wrong like ~1/10th of the time (for the more advanced ones) but law is also an area where there is black and white rules, but also there is interpretation of some aspects.
Some things are set in stone and some are about understanding the intention of the law and being able to back that up in a court if it was challenged.

Do you want the public trusting a LLM that says "oh yes you can claim a tax deduction for an Xbox because its for stress relief related to your job" and then you get whacked with a fine for incorrectly filing your tax.

Using a LLM to help your draft an email to your uncle = low risk. Using a LLM to help you decide if you actually need a medical procedure your doctor has reccomended = high risk.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If that was the logic we were using then Wikipedia shouldn't be allowed to have articles on health and law either. WebMD shouldn't have ever been legal either.

Obviously, the benefits to having that information available outweigh the hypothetical negatives. Even with them being incorrect, partial and easy to draw invalid conclusions from, having the information be freely and readily accessible is better for everyone.

[–] ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

I guess it's like banning loan sharks. Sure some people could only.get loans through them because banks were racist or whatever. But it's objectively bad for everyone using it mainly because when it's bad its really really bad.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like finding and citing appropriate law cases would be a great way for AI to be used, especially because the bullshit legal-ese that surrounds everything in court cases is so spectacularly opaque and trivial that you have to pay out the nose just for someone to parse through all the bullshit... Like, lawyers shouldn't even be a thing you need unless it's for some really complicated case. The courtroom should be a place where an average citizen could speak for themselves.

Also, as someone who studied medicine... Do you know how often doctors will take a patients history, step outside the exam room, and then google shit? I don't want to imply that they don't know what they're doing, like, you need to study medicine to know what to google, BUT... they still be googling shit. I think AI could be trained to ask the same patient history questions that a nurse asks. Then using the answers to those questions, then they can provide some feedback, with a big ol disclaimer that it's NOT to be taken seriously, and you should consult with a physician.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd agree with you to some extent if people weren't so god damn stupid. So many lazy fucks just take the AI's output at face value, believing it to be some all knowledgeable god, rather than a compilation of all human biases expressed on the internet with a bunch of hallucinations thrown in for good measure.

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[–] Mniot@programming.dev 10 points 13 hours ago

When people say "AI" these days, they mean the LLM-derived generative AI such as ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, and Grok.

These AI systems are not capable of finding authoritative search results. They are good at generating fluent, plausible, context-appropriate text. In legal and medical situations, that's the opposite of what you'd want.

Do you know how often doctors will take a patients history, step outside the exam room, and then google shit?

Think about how often the doctors land on some pseudo-science result. Now imagine that instead of a doctor it's a patient and instead of asking "could these be related" the patient is told "these are related".

a big ol disclaimer that it’s NOT to be taken seriously

This has worked very well for Fox News, which is not a news agency and is for entertainment purpose only. Also for dietary supplements, which are not medicine.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

New York State not New York City.

I don't know why Mamdani is pictured. I think it is because the proposal was introduced in the State Senate by Kisten Gonzalez who is a DSA member.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

First look at that picture, I thought he was starting to grow a wild mullet

[–] MorPolitics@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

You're going to end up with AI that works for some people & not for others under these sorts of policies. I don't really think this is in the spirit of democratic socialism.

Had to call a strip club, fucking AI bot answers the phone. Thankfully they answered the door before I even had to talk to it.

[–] core@leminal.space 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Cue the first amendment arguments from the "corporations are people" crowd

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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What i don't like about this, is the ignorance towards every other field.

The ai is not allowed to tell you that you might have some illness but the LLM is allowed to vibe code the system that holds your medical data, or the software of the medical device that analyses your e.g. blood and provide the data to the doctor.

Systems and professions are interconnected. Chatgtp telling me that I have cancer is not as bad as chatgtp making mistakes causing my medical data to be stolen and sold.

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Trying to save white collar jobs with obstructive law won’t have the effect they think it will.

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