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[–] IPeaceInYourFace@lemmy.world 3 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't care. This isn't Reddit. I am not on this planet to spend my time complaining about others.

I am here to have fun, and as an artist. I'd rather just enjoy my own journey than worry about somebody else's.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 minutes ago

Healthy and well-adjusted 🩵

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

to be fair - player piano is a great idea and there were composers who did stuff specifically for it - Nancarrow is the most prominent one. it's a completely different aesthetic and requires not trying to make it seem like anything it is not though.

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The AI "artists" really crack me up.

It's like someone telling you they can run really fast, like crazy fast, faster than anyone else in the world.

And then when you ask them to show you, they give you a shit-eating grin and get in a car and hit the gas.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you need an LLM to tell you how to write then you’re a fraud and a hack. It’s a skill, get good or fuck off, if you want to learn then you have to fucking learn, otherwise you’re just a plagiarist who doesn’t know shit.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

there are ways to implement LLM Generative AI creatively but it has nothing to do with what we traditionally perceive as writing fiction. It is more of text adventure interactive writing kind of thing and you still need to do much of everything while generative AI adapts it on the go. that's one of the few legitimate use cases that actually accomplish something that is hard to do otherwise.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Writing is hard in general, if you’re not willing to do the work then you’re not doing the work, doesn’t matter if it’s hard, if you didn’t write it then you’re not writing. No excuses. Stop handing over your imagination just because things that are difficult to do well are difficult to do well.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

i don't think you understand what i mean and your comment has nothing to do with what i said.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don’t think you understood what you meant.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 0 points 40 minutes ago
[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

If she was taking about just a proof read, then I'm okay with it. But I don't believe she is taking about proof reading. AI should be nowhere near the creative process.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

there's actually an entire subgenre of writers pretending to workshop story ideas with generative AI but actually trolling to get the most ridiculous responses. it works best with Claude because it create dedicated skills to make it even more stupid. Not everyone's cup of tea but sometimes it is funny when clanker attempts to make sense of some obviously ridiculous story pitch while the writer keeps pulling the rug from under it.

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

~~AI~~ LLM hallucinations are incredible for creativity, but the people who just lean on them for the majority of it are lazy.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If you need to proof read something you can do it with spell check in your weird processor and an understanding of grammar.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 6 points 7 hours ago

I ran your comment through my weird processor (my brain) and found a typo!

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 46 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you’re going to send me the output of some LLM, do me a favour and just send me the prompt instead. Otherwise I’m going to spend as much time reading it as you spent writing it.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

LLMs are stochastic. If I send you the prompt instead of the output, then there's no guarantee that the output you get will be correct. If I generate the text myself, I can verify that it's correct before sending it off.

The problem is that as the recipient, you have no idea whether I've even read the output, let alone verified or understood it. And with the low barrier to entry, it's much more likely that you're getting unverified slop. Sharing the prompt isn't going to help with that.

Edit: sorry, posted before I finished writing.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 5 points 7 hours ago

"Write a message to a girl so I look nice and not a creep that wants to fuck her"?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

Of course it will be correct: the prompt contains the idea you wanted to convey. I’ll read that and know what you meant. Feeding that prompt into an LLM doesn’t add any new ideas from you, it just inflates the text like a balloon and gussies it up with useless window dressing.

If anything, it obscures what you meant!

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

This is an unpopular opinion, but as someone who builds stuff from scratch, this is the same feeling i get when someone holds up a 3d printed item and goes “i made this”

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 36 minutes ago

I don't think that's wrong, but from the other direction.
They're both tools, and as long as you're open about what it actually means to use the tool and what you actually did I don't see an issue.

Sometimes 3D printing is as creative as printing someone else's design. Sometimes the creativity is a modeling and design problem. Sometimes it's a machine operation skill.

AI tools can be "write a book" or "draw me a cat", which isn't much , or it could used to do spot touch ups in a photo, or get feedback on a written work.

Doing something with or without different tools has different advantages and disadvantages, and changes the criteria that you judge it by.
Some people feel the same way about digital cameras or cell phone cameras. I don't think the device picking the exposure time and white balance makes it not your picture, it just means I'm not being impressed by your color pallet, but instead your subject and composition.

To me that's the least annoying part of AI at the moment. I'm open to the notion that you can be creative with tools that remove parts of the challenge, you just don't get credit for the challenge.

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 4 points 4 hours ago

That depends, really. Making a decent print can be really difficult and people can be pround of succeeding at that part of the process. Especially if you have a bad printer. Making the actual 3D models yourself on the other hand is no different than making stuff from scratch. It's a skill that you have to aquire.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

3d scanning is actually a lot of fun. I had a stint in a museum and we were scanning sculptures for replica molds (because some bitches just can't stop firing ballistic missiles at our museums). However, fixing those 3d models in Blender afterwards was not fun.

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty amazed what you can do with simple photogrammetry at home, but Blender is still not fun.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

it is even less fun when you're just thrown into it without prior training. learning it on the go just because folks who were supposed to do it dropped out was rough.

[–] waldfee@feddit.org 21 points 13 hours ago

If they've created the 3d file themselves that seems like an accurate thing to say, as opposed to just printing something off the internet. Obviously the amount of effort and perhaps artistic expression is gonna differ, but like, I think most printed stuff only exists to serve a specific function anyway

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

The only people who would use AI for creative work are those who are unwilling to take the time to become good at it or are incapable of doing so.

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[–] stormeuh@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

The best way I have found to make sense of why some people are so enthousiastic to shill for AI, is to see AI as yet another product that preys upon people's insecurities. In this case it's maybe the worst insecurity of all: feeling like you're less intelligent than other people.

Taking that insecurity as the through-line, this kind of shilling makes perfect sense IMO. It's essentially a form of self soothing, saying "everyone is or will be using this, it's not just me!".

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 49 points 20 hours ago

The new kind of writer's block

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

I've shouted from the rooftops before many times there is nothing creative from AI writing. It just repeats the same terse, sentence structures! AI had never fallen in love, grieved, or inspired before!

[–] treehugger6@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Well said. I swear I'm not being biased just because I loved playing his music on piano

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