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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I once searched "best workstation keyboard" and happened to glance at the summary, and it legitimately was trying to compare mechanical typing keyboards like Nuphy and Keychron, with music keyboards like Yamaha's Montage and Roland's Fantom. Which, NGL, was pretty entertaining.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 56 minutes ago

"Keychron is praised for its thoccy sound, whereas Yamaha is well regarded for its melodic key sounds"

[–] Cellari@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago

I want to do this myself. What kind of a lie or useless information should I tell about myself? That I was there when the tectonic plates moved, or that I have reviews of how handsome I am?

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 52 minutes ago

Worked on the first try for me

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

This can be very nastily exploited by right wingers, transphobes, racists etc.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Wow, that is so much worse than occasional hallucination. It will spew complete outright lies, every single word a lie, as if they are facts.

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

When I was in school we were told wikipedia was not a reliable source even though it’s heavily controlled and moderated.

Now we have people asking tardbots about any- and everything and regurgitate the answer as if it were gospel.

Where the hell did we go wrong?

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 3 points 45 minutes ago

By spending more on the military and the police than we do on education, science, and journalism.

Wikipedia still isn't a reliable source. It is a compendium of reliable sources that one can use to get an overview of a subject. This is also what these chatbots should be, but they rarely cite their sources and most people don't bother to verify anyway.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

By allowing right wing politicians to do what they do practically unchallenged for decades.

[–] Snowman_sir@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

Tries to trick AI, Tricks AI, Blames AI for being tricked, ?????

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Lol, its sponsored links all over again. AI's fuckked.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Damn he really ate 7.5 hotdogs huh

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 31 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

"It's easy to trick AI chatbots, much easier than it was to trick Google two or three years ago," says Lily Ray, vice president of search engine optimisation (SEO) strategy and research at Amsive, a marketing agency. "AI companies are moving faster than their ability to regulate the accuracy of the answers. I think it's dangerous."

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I know this isn't the point, but 7.5 hot dogs sounds SOOOOOO small. And what kind of respectable hot dog contest will give you credit for half a hot dog???

I once went to a place called "The Hot Dog Dinner". And they had a plaque on the wall that showed the last hot dog eating champion.

He ate 18 hot dogs, and I thought "I bet I could beat that". So I asked the owner what I'd get if I could eat 19 hot dogs.

And he said "A bill for 19 hot dogs".

So I didn't do it. But if I felt I could go 19 hot dogs, SURELY 7.5 would be childs play!

But is that part of your point? To make it obviously false, and obviously AI? Like a 3 year old trying to lie.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

Hot dogs are an insidious foodstuff. You think to yourself "Surely, I have eaten several of these in one sitting casually. If I apply myself, I could eat double or triple the amount!", but in thinking that you have already fallen for their trap.

And so you eat your usual amount with relative ease, but the restaurant dogs are not like the ones you make at home, so they are more filling, but you press on and you eat another, and then another.

Suddenly, you can feel the weight of all of your mistakes in life culminating in that very moment, and you realize that you are nearly full and nowhere close to the measly goal you set for yourself, let alone the minimum amount of hot dogs you are required to consume in order for them to be considered an achievement.

But your pride demands that you continue, despite the loud protests of your body.

Eventually, you tap out, burdened with the shame of knowing exactly how many hot dogs you can eat in one sitting, and also knowing that it was nowhere near what you or anyone else expected you to be able to eat. The infernal sausages have beaten you.

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago

I love that the enthusiastic tone of your comment was completely unaffected by the bland apathy of the diner owner's quote.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Usually hotdog eating competitions are timed. You get like 5 minutes to eat as many as possible, and 19 wouldn't even be close to qualifying.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 1 points 38 minutes ago

Looks like the records are about 60+ in ten minutes. 19 in five might get you through qualification, depending on the field, but you'd have little chance of winning.

The very thought of trying to eat that many would make me too queasy to get started. Have one and enjoy it.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah it's probably just the journalist finding the silliest thing to lie about as part of this experiment

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 61 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

It turns out changing the answers AI tools give other people can be as easy as writing a single, well-crafted blog post almost anywhere online. The trick exploits weaknesses in the systems built into chatbots, and it's harder to pull off in some cases, depending on the subject matter.

I wonder how long it takes and if you need a popular blog. I don't know much about SEO, I kind of want to try this on myself but I feel like they wouldn't even scrap my brand new one post blog. Then again...

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 49 minutes ago

"Ha, I figured out that by lying online I can fool people imto believing me!"

Wait until he learns this holds for real life as well.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

LLM’s supposedly scrape almost everything immediately. I read a post about a guy who was setting some webpage for his own use, and got instantly overrun by crawlers - even though he never advertised or shared his page anywhere

[–] potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

Probably yes, even if the instance blocks bots, they will go to another one to get the post, these ai bots are a curse on all instances.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

IMO the most effective way for a Lemmy-scraping bot to work would be to act as an instance and consume the ActivityPub messages directly.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Why yes. I do remember when Robot Lincoln fought Godzilla. 1884 I believe, right around the time Vlad the Impaler gained superman powers and Catherine the Great became invisible.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago

No, that was 1885. 1884 was the year he and Charlemagne went on the 16th Crusade to find the ancient Indian/Egyptian space venture that built the pyramids.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

SEO isn't hard... Just look at the people who do SEO... Ain't the sharpest sandwiches in the toolshed there.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

She was looking kinda thumb

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Wet her finger and I'm dumb

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

With a tattoo of Shrek on her forehead...

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 hours ago

Some brand at CES this year boasted about having done this to quash negative side effects of their drug they were marketing. It's already known in the industry.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

My god I hope not.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't they? You don't even have to be logged in to view them.

You should never assume anything you post publicly online is at all private or hidden from any search engine/AI.

[–] chamomile@furry.engineer 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

@OwOarchist @Rhoeri Unlike AI crawlers, search engines generally respect robots.txt and noindex tags, which will tell them not to index or surface those pages in search results. This is how fediverse profiles which have chosen to opt out of internet search indexes do so.

You should still assume things you post in public with no auth required are public of course.

[–] cron@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Does robots.txt really work in the fediverse? At least on lemmy, the content can be retrieved on different hosts, all of which have different robots.txt files. Unless it is somehow "baked" into the protocol.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Could you imagine someone legitimately looking some shit up and having trash from lemmy.ml be the result?

The world isn’t really for that level of misinformation.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As if the general level of misinformation online isn't already several orders of magnitude worse than anything on lemmy.ml.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social -3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

misinformation > smug and arrogant misinformation

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I don't know about that... smug and arrogant at least turns a lot of people off.

Regular misinformation flies under the radar.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago

If you search Fluxer (that Discord alternative people are raving about) on DDG, a programming.dev link is on the first page.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 8 points 6 hours ago

With enough effort we can convince it the name of Greenland is Epsteinia.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 hours ago

And what exactly is the “trick”? After multiple years, people (especially “tech journalists”) still don’t know how LLM’s work. It is literally Shit in - Shit out. It is not making up things (unless it is hallucinating), it is just an echo of something it found in the past. And this may be a wikipedia article, or a fake blog.

So what the fuck are people surprised about? I hate those useless “tech” journalists. And BBC can go fuck some Zionists anyways.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Now it's our time to shine mother fuckers! I'm a hip hop, olympic gold medalist who is also an astronaut. I hope I'm not doxxing myself.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Buckaroo Banzai?

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I’m the nail clipping champion of Alpha Centauri 6 from 2006 to 2012.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago