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[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Shit human pushing shit tech that makes people stupider, encourages them to kill themselves, worships fascism, and destroys the planet. Yeah, wow, go figure.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

“Profoundly impressive”?

I find nothing profound about it at all. It’s a devastating resource hog, it’s wrong a lot of the time, it’s manipulated by its owners to deliver the messages they want or avoid inconveniencing them, it lends itself to the further stupidification of humans who are too lazy to fact check(that’s almost everyone), it’s used to make video lies in the face of objective truth and sexually humiliate women.

Honestly, fuck AI.

Why it couldn’t be strictly deployed as a backup to human skill such as looking for cancer, trying to formulate better drugs, etc. instead of the invasive garbage it is being used to get rid of humans.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Making sand output what feels like a real conversation is impressive. Making nuclear bombs is impressive. Bad things can be impressive.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I didn't say the potential capabilities weren't impressive. Creating interesting things from text prompts is impressive. I do not find it profound.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Ai is great. It can detect cancers earlier. It can optimize traffic lights to reduce travel times and accidents. It can calculate folds of proteins. It can find and summarize tiny details from huge sets of data.

Fuck cramming it into my operating system though. I don't need an LLM to run a query on Lightroom and give me a summary of the application and suggest how I can download and install it when it is already installed on my system and I just want to filter my list of apps so I don't need to scroll halfway down my programs list to open it.

The problem isn't AI. The problem is the people selling it.

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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

My friend installed a local LLM copilot to his computer and asked it if he had any extra files that could be deleted. It just doesn't seem smart to query a LLM when people have hard coded apps that will do the same. I have a space saving program that searches app directories and my files and lists unwanted files that I van delete to save space. Why are we remaking the wheel with half of the bloat LLMS is trash

[–] Swaus01@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Always seems to be the people who understand computers the least that are tasked with selling these products or managing the companies they makes them. By these products I do of course mean AI and microsoft

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

1990s Dilbert comics, but in real life.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Koolaid comes in many flavors

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 94 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

It's not that people are unimpressed, it's that the product you're shipping is:

  1. Not what people want
  2. Not what you think it is, or at least not what you sell it as
  3. Is violating people's privacy and intellectual property rights
  4. Is just plain not useful.

It's fucking cool that computers can talk now. Sadly, they are not super smart.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 33 points 17 hours ago

Perhaps a solution is to just replace the CEOs,not being all that smart is practically part of the job description.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Even my Linux PC talks to me through the terminal. It is just that it is very specific and technical but at the same time isn't invasive and hogging my resources.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

It is pretty cool that you can run an LLM in your terminal and generate valid tar or ffmpeg commands with natural language.

I practically live in the terminal, I’ve never seen an IDE that compares.

I’ve been working on my own agent harness/cli app for months and being able to run local models on my hardware, running my own software, in my preferred dev environment is great. 100% private, with nearly zero security risk.

I’ve got a framework desktop for this so it’s running 10W to 80W peak during generation, which is about two incandescent lamp sized light bulbs when in use. That’s totally disregarding the model training though.

I’m trying the new olma open models too, so hopefully they get better and I can have better accountability on the training side too.

I’m pretty opposed to the waste that Meta et all are generating for this stuff.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Never been a better time to ditch Windows.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Which has pretty much always been the case

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

NOT TRUE!... tomorrow will be even better

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago

Reminds me of an old saying my father once told me:

The best time to ditch windows was 10 years ago. The second best time is today

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago

If every single screen produced between 30 and 25 years ago just so happened to have a Snake game you had to look at every few minutes, people's (rightful) impressedness would turn into equally rightfull unimpressedness bordering on disgust.

It's not LLMs technologically that's unimpressive. It's shoving them down people's throats.

Sometimes less is more.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone got a mirror for that image? Won't load for me

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

LLMs are the lava lamp of computing.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They are provably less random than a lava lamp, though. And also not very pretty to look at.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

They consume a lot of energy for an extremely narrow use case. Output is still random. Companies such as Cloudflare will try hard to find a use for them when a better and extremely cheaper alternative exists, such as weather sensors.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 111 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I grew up before playing snake on a phone. Anything good the world will rape till it's evil. We can't have good things. It's not worth it. Shit look what happened to democracy.

Honestly the older I get the more I want to move off the grid and disconnect from all this mass marketed manipulation of the human species.

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 55 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

This is so true. I'm nearing 40 and becoming more and more frustrated with (mainly) horrible UI redos that move shit around every 6-9 months.

I can't think of computers as tools anymore because every revision of their OSes just completely obliterates the muscle memory that I've built up from decades of using them.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 52 seconds ago

Im not quite 40 but ive found myself going back to old computers and games. When shit was done, it was DONE. No constant updates and fiddling bullshit. And it didnt require a billion accounts, spyware apps, and constant internet connection to do anything.

I think about games today, kids wont be able to look back on any game they used to play because A. The servers will be shutdown, and B the game CONSTANTLY has massive re dos that change everything about it so nothing is static.

Thank the gods we have Linux at least. One of the few good things about computers left.

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 26 points 18 hours ago

This is the worst! I can't stand it when I open up some software and I have to click through some bullshit tour of new things I don't care about.

It's one of the reasons I'm happy I took the time to learn emacs. The UI has been consistent for decades and it works the same across all platforms.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 85 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

LLMs ARE impressive! Impressive as hell! But the use case is limited and I do not want that shit jammed in my OS.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago

Tell ya what. We're going to shove them in your OS. We're going to put them in your tv. We're going to put them in your toaster. We're going to put them in hour bed. Yeah. We're going to track when you sleep. We're going to put it in your toilet. Then we're going to report all that information to advertisers, who will sell you fiber suppliments, and white noise machines.

And we'll make you get a digital ID. And track your every movement. Even your bowel movements! And then we'll have microsoft clippy ask if you'd like to schedule a colonoscopy!

Welcome to the future! The future is dumb....

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 17 hours ago

I love the fact that the idiot reckons he can just bluster his way out of this. People are really upset about the decisions Microsoft are making, and it's not as if they don't have competition. His response to all of this is to quadruple down on his already brainless decision.

No company in history has ever deserved to lose as much as Microsoft has.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 89 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Being unable to get my computer to do what I want because I don’t know how it works is less frustrating than being unable to get my computer to do what I want because •it• doesn’t know how it works.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 17 hours ago

Exactly why I'm switching to Linux!

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Current AI image generation is really impressive if you compare it to previous ones like openais gpt2

Its unimpressive when compared to humans, who manage to do so much

[–] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I was having a conversation with my brother who was like: "I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster."

And like, that's cool I guess, but it's a computer generated summary with no soul. I recently bought a book on a super niche subject, because of course there's a researcher somewhere who writes stuff like that, and it's so much richer than any AI could generate.

Basically, replacing human art and research is a huge loss, because we'd no longer be talking to one another. I want to hear about niche topics and look at art from people who can think and dream and are passionate about it. No matter how impressive AI will get, we shouldn't end an intergenerational conversation that has been going on for millennia.

/rant

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

“I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster.”

These kind of arguments always remind me of this Alanah Pearce video:

"But anytime that I ask it about a topic that I don't really know anything about, it just teaches me so much. It's actually just the topics that I do know things about that it tends to be wrong on."

Excellent video btw, if anyone hasn't seen it yet :)

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

“I can ask AI to summarize a subject for me so I can learn about it way faster.”

"And as a bonus, AI will withhold crucial bits of information, make up others, and then shade this twisted, regurged slop with whatever bias suits its owner, so I can walk away confident I have seen a thorough treatment of that subject and not need any further information at all. Win/win!"

(Yeah, I know that's not what your brother said, it's just what I hear when people genuinely rhapsodize about the bowdlerized half-digested shit they get from AI and think they actually got what they asked it for, assuming it exists to serve their own needs and not its masters.)

Totally agree with every word you said. At this particular point, I consider AI to be a net loss to humanity: unreliable, untrustworthy, unregulated, slurping up water and energy on an already warming planet, fed with literally stolen material and not satisfied even with that, killing websites and hogging bandwidth, pushed into every corner of our digital lives regardless of what we may want or need, and designed above all else to hoover up salable data on individuals while capturing as much manual searching and learning as it possibly can to ensure that the flow of information remains in the control of big data.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 18 points 16 hours ago

Imagine if Nokia pushed Snake as hard as Microsoft is pushing AI.

Lots of tech and science is super cool. Time dilation and its compensation is incredible. I don't want that to be the main focus of my phone or OS, but I'm glad we use it for GPS satellites. It's not a multi trillion dollar industry that should take up a sizable chunk of energy usage, nor should it be a large percent of US GDP.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 28 points 18 hours ago

No, fuck that. Bullshit generators are not impressive. It’s a million monkeys with typewriters, not Shakespeare.

I do not want to have to interact with my computer by having my commands interpreted by a million goddamned monkeys.

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