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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 130 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't mind pizzacake commics, but at this point just seeing the art style is enough to get me pre-emptivly upset at how stupid and insane the comment section is going to be.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 71 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I see it and just sigh because I know nobody will talk about the actual comic it will just be about how shitty of a person she is for X reason.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (28 children)

I’m out of the loop, what’s the pizza cake drama?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (14 children)

pizzacake is a woman with opinions. misogynists hate her for that. One time, she didn't handle that very well. Lots of people got banned on reddit. Now people here mostly bitch about her comics being "low effort" and such, which mostly just reveals "I don't have a legit argument to hate this person so I'm going to pointlessly criticise her work instead."

As I've said in another comment, if some rando did the same scenario in ragemaker and posted it, everyone would be all over how relatable it is.

That said, it is possibly to simply not like the artstyle, or to not find the scenario relatable, or whatever criticism a person might have. Divorced of context, those criticisms sound valid. With context though, it becomes obvious that it is popular to persecute pizzacake.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

persecute

Y'all have got to join us in reality.

Yes, there are some misogynists who hate pizzacake because she is a woman exercising her agency.

That is not the majority of pushback against her, just the most disgusting and vocal.

The vast majority of criticism of pizzacake is towards her lack of punchlines, constant strawmanning, the unbelievable sycophants who follow and worship her and have turned the relevant subreddit into basically /r/ChurchofPizzacake, and for pizzacake's pattern of poor behavior in interactions on reddit and elsewhere.

There is a lot of grossness surrounding the entire pizzacake topic, yes, that's undeniable. But to effectively chalk up all or most of the criticism as misogyny when a healthy majority of it sticks to the content of her comics or conduct in direct interactions rather than any extracurricular activities she may engage in, is just disingenuous as fuck.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I should clarify, I'm not claiming that everyone who is criticizing pizzacake is a misogynist. I am however saying that it is popular among misogynists to bully women artists and call it "criticism", thus, the presence of certain kinds of criticism indicates an increased likelihood that the "critic" is actually a misogynist, even if the criticisms at face value are legitimate.

I shouldn't need to have a law degree to write a comment in a comics forum.

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I remember having these arguments about whether Star Wars 7 should have let Rey be a woman. Uh, I mean, a Mary Sue.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The parallels are stark indeed. Divorced of context, it's perfectly reasonable to accept the argument that Rey is a poorly written character (because she is). Normal, well adjusted people were able to accept that the sequel trilogy sucks for numerous reasons, Rey being a poorly written character being one of them, and then move on. The problem with this criticism isn't the criticism itself, but rather the people who bang on and on and on about it reveal that they didn't have a problem with the writing, they had a problem with a female character having agency.

"Mind what people do, not just what they say, for deeds will betray a lie."

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[–] gurnu@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For some reason PCC:s supporters never mention that she threatened to sue a subreddit for making fun of her comics. "One time she didn't handle that very well" that's putting it very mildly. PC is just toxic

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Is that what the narrative is now? I think the critics would have mentioned it last time, they were very thorough and even cited sources.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I didn't know who she was or her gender when I said I hate her art style is almost as much as Ben Garrison's.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

She is a proud misandrist and a camgirl. Also the punchline of most of her comics is that impotent rage allows her to yell louder than any opinions she disagrees with.

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm here to tell you I just dislike the comic itself, I don't even know about any controversy. I see that shit, I close it and downvote. Nearly as bad as Family Circus.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't know what family circus is but yeah I don't really like her comics and would much rather discuss why instead of talking about the unrelated BS.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

It's hugely popular but I find the humor inane and it seemed like every other one was a blatant propaganda post.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm unfamiliar, this is the first thing of hers I've encountered and I thought it fun enough to post here. Is there one of those Reasons people don't like her?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (30 children)

There's a long story involving her threatening legal action against a subreddit over people parodying her work, overall she seems to be a very thin skinned individual that doesn't take criticism well.

Her work also just isn't very good, in my view. Her art style is incredibly bland, and her positions on various topics are just the biggest "no shit" moments you can imagine.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, if the biggest critiques of an internet celeb was that they were thin-skinned and their takes aren't very spicy then I take that as a win in today's environment. Hell even being "sort of an asshole" is pretty good by today's standards.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

It could be worse, but then again, people wouldn't be posting her work all the time if she'd done something truly awful.

Instead she makes bland dross that confirms people's opinions, and people think she's actually creative as a result.

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[–] gurnu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Maybe because the comics rarely have any substance to talk about. Besides, I don't want to see or support someone's work when they threaten people with litigation for making fun of and criticizing their comics

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[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same. I have no problem with her or her comics. But whenever I see one being posted, I sigh and ponder whether to open the clusterfuck that the comment section will be.

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