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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 211 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've got class war, which is a real doozy.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yooo same. Why the fuck don't these people just fuck off and relax? I can't imagine having that much money and still feeling like I have to go to work.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because at some point after the first few million you turn into a dragon that must hoard wealth and the people that generate that wealth become a cost to minimize.

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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My sheet says "rome"

Uh oh

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"So, what's Rome's history like?"

"It's all war."

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[–] squidman@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah, I got the Dominion War. Time for another DS9 rewatch.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm the War on Christmas guy, and I'm getting my ass handed to me every single year.

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[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I participated in the war on drugs...

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On the winning side, I imagine.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The best class I took in college was an intercession course about the Vietnam War. We had to read an entire book pretty much every day, which was great prep for grad school.

I basically learned that the entire war was completely unjustified, it was horrific and brutal on both sides in ways that aren’t talked about, but that ultimately the United States had absolutely no business interfering. Vietnam had spent years under French colonial control, which they overthrew under their own power. They had already asserted a desire to rule themselves.

Tonkin was also a genuine false flag, which just isn’t acknowledged? We manufactured the cause for an extremely unpopular war. So many young man died or were disabled because of something that was pointless.

That class was first that really got me to question the patriotic narrative I was taught about American history in high school.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

Of course we can't acknowledge it, because then we can't make the same "mistake" again and people will start questioning real causus belli like saddams WMDs which we'll find any day now.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Vietnam got a rough fucking deal in the 1900s. Shortly after the US left, the Cambodians under Pol Pot invaded, and they were brutal

[–] ours@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Vietnam ended up kicking Pol Pot off which is impossible to argue as anything but a win for humanity.

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

All I got was Star Wars

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The seven years war is fantastic and is utterly critical to understanding the US Revolution as well as understanding how the Iroquois pulled a power move on the other first nations that worked, but later led to the current situation with first nations in North America.

On the revolution: Namely that corruption was so endemic in the colonies that when the UK actually started to do something about it the revolution happened albeit with a lot of pushing from the upper crust of the colonies.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun couterfactual to consider: how many MPs would "the colonies" have needed to blunt popular support for the revolution?

Probably can't go very high, but maybe one per charter? If not that high (Scotland only had 45, I think), then what would have been enough "representation" to preclude the American elites from making a compelling case, or what paths to personal status would have tempted enough of them that there wouldn't have been a critical mass of will and resources?

The British colonized the Americas, particularly North America, very differently than Spain and France did, but didn't seem to think of the purpose or integration of colonies as any different.

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[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] essell@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Don't let that obsession drag you down under.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WWIII nut here.

Get yourself a Red Cross emergency kit, a lot of water jugs, and ramen. You're underestimating your chances of survival and how much you'll want to.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You’re underestimating your chances of survival and how much you’ll want to.

yes, you too can live out the remainder of your miserable days scrambling for rat meat in the irradiated future.

of course, the desire to live, to survive, overcomes a lot, but 'want to live' I think is stretching it a bit.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mine just says WW15 and has a picture of a green tiger in space

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Second Sudanese Civil War of course (1983-2005)

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

~~The one about slavery.~~ ~~I mean state rights.~~ I mean Northern Aggression.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The proper term now is War of the Demonic Democrats Against the Party of Lincoln and Trump

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh. "Galactic Civil War" and "War of the Ring."

Neat. Wizards in both!

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

War of the Roses, winner of Best Named War ;)

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WWI was objectively the most world changing and sets the stage for the entire modern era, if you squint WWII was just the Extended Edition of WWI all that being said WWIII was still my favorite.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 11 points 1 year ago

« Ce n'est pas une paix, c'est un armistice de vingt ans » — Ferdinand Foch about the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

Often translated as "This isn't a peace treaty, it's an armistice for twenty years." but some might prefer "This is no peace, it's a twenty-year ceasefire."

[–] lime@feddit.nu 20 points 1 year ago (11 children)

i got the soviet-afghan war and wow did that recontextualize a lot of things about the modern world

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I missed the memo. I am just generally anti war and don't like reading about them. War is all because of dickhead leaders that can't act decent, treat others right, or talk things out without being little insecure manbabies. And when manchildren in power have their big boi pp insulted they make the less powerful fight for them instead of doing anything respectful. Some rebellions which lead to wars are justified. Gotta stick it back to the empowered manchildren sometimes. But it all comes down to a shitty leader.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I decided to focus on wars of leftest and/or peasant uprisings. Often heart breaking, but man if you've ever enjoyed cheering for the underdog, they are definitely that. Plus, you're automatically learning about the Class War at the same time :D

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo professor, which Falkland Islands you talking about?

https://youtu.be/42_oWaWsiYs

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The seven year war, which is what the rest of the world calls the French Indian war should actually have been called World War One.

It was also started by an incompetent 22 year old George Washington being sent out in his first command who ignored the equivalent of the sergeant put in charge of the new lieutenant advice and executed a French person he shouldn't have.

The taxes that started the revolutionary war? Those were to pay the war debts on the seven year war. Dude literally led an army to avoid paying the consequences of his actions.

EDIT: it's also possible to draw "ALL WARS"

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

pfft. enlist when you're 18, you'll get a whole new war.

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[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The galactic civil war....

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine just says WW3, should I be concerned?

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I listened to Hardcore History's series on World War I in that window, so that was my assigned war of interest.

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[–] Vladkar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

There are 64 books in the Horus Heresy.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Hey, the Falklands is the one I'm obsessed with and it's actually really interesting. Only "modern" war between near peers before ukraine.

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