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A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
If you read the article his wife did.
Translated: she wants more money.
You stole my identity... You lose! You get NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!
This is not a surprise, his widow has been profiting off of him from the moment he died. Within a year of his death, I started seeing lottery scratch tickets with his face scattered across the ground outside gas stations.
I thought we were boiling the ocean to cure cancer.
1% curing cancer 98% anime titties, 1% everything else.
Last year I saw a stage play about Gene Wilder. The actor playing Wilder, Jonathan Randell Silver, bore a passing visual resemblance to him, helped along by a good hair and makeup job, but also sounded and behaved very like him. Silver had obviously studied Wilder's mannerisms and choices, both in Wilder's iconic roles and in Wilder's own persona from interviews and such, and Silver's performance in the play really evoked Wilder on a very effective level whether it was recreating some of Wilder's famous comedy bits and characters or portraying the real Wilder behind the scenes. This was an actor who understood the role, and used real human choices and talent to create his performance.
There are countless talented actors and impressionists who could have recreated Wilder's Wonka on a human level and given a genuine performance with a real soul behind it. The use of low-effort AI slop instead was a deliberate choice here, and it falls to the viewing public to accept this or not.
Also, this is a fucking game show. They are digitally defiling a beloved corpse for a fucking game show.
Any idea where I could watch a recording? I didn't know anything about this show and would love to see it. I could find small clips and excerpts but could find the whole show anywhere
As a theatre artist myself - part of the fun of doing live performance is the ephemeral, never-to-be-repeated part. Recorded theatre never works.
Yeah it does. It can work just fine. Just because you have that opinion doesn't mean it's true. I also have a background in performing arts if we just want to appeal to authority...
But I've personally seen several recordings of live shows that were pretty good representations of the show itself. For a recent example, the recording of Hadestown with the orginal cast is pretty solid and I quite enjoyed it even after seeing the live show previously.
I've also seen the Hadestown Netflix- and Hamilton, and I grew up watching the Cats original recording on VHS.
Although they're entirely passable, they aren't as good as movie-musicals (examples - Singing in the Rain, The Muppets 2011, Mary Poppins, West Side Story, Hairspray, Wicked) or as good as the live shows.
Recorded theatre never works.
Is not the same as:
Although they’re entirely passable, they aren’t as good as movie-musicals
Watching a live performance is going to have a different energy obviously. But seeing it recorded is still better than never seeing it at all.
The "art is ephemeral" is pure art school nonsense and 99% of the time ends up being turning into "art for the elite that can afford it." I thought it was silly in art school 30 years ago and have had 30 years to think about why I still think it's silly. It's one of those buttons for me that, when I see it, I have a really hard time not being harsh to the person regurgitating the sentiment.
It was a small production at an Off-Broadway theatre, so I don't believe any full filmed production of it has been published, but maybe someone will remount a production sometime. It was a very good show.
Off topic question but is your username a reference to the Marx Brother's movie Duck Soup's Rufus T Firefly character? I know it's not quite the same name but close enough to name me raise an eyebrow.
I assume the eyebrow you're raising is painted on. 🥸
And yes, you're correct. Short version of the story: I'm a lifelong Marx Brothers fan and I used "Rufus T. Firefly" as a screenname for a bit back in the 1990s before deciding I wanted to use something a little more "me," changing the first name to my given one, and dropping the period after the T.
Thanks for your curiosity!
That's awesome! I don't think I've seen a Marx Brothers reference outside of very surface level Groucho, Harpo, or Chico. I used Zeppo as a internet handle for a long time. Really cool, and kind of excited, to see someone else that's a fan!
Come with me and you'll be
In a world of AI fabrication
Take a look and you'll see
The slop enshittification
We'll begin with marketing spin
Traveling in the world of exploitation
What we'll see will defy explanation
If you want to view paradise, Simply vibe around and feel it, Anything you want, Just steal it. Want to change the world? Just dirty deal it.
Sheet 🤣 I got more joy out of you than any of this chatgipity slop. I might have to steal this. 🫵
This is like living through IRL horror movie. How awful. Gene Wilder is unironically my favorite actor of all time. The fact that his wife of all people is ok with this shows how out of touch people are with reality. We're literally doing anything to escape at this point. This madness needs to stop.
"But sir, the cow is dead." "Shaddup! There's still milk inside there somewhere. Keep looking!!!".
How do I proxy a downvote into reality?
Yet another movie I won't be either paying a cent to watch, or even pirating.
I've always wanted to get real famous and then die right before the peak of my career so 10 years later I can be seen dancing with vacuum cleaners for a commercial on netflix.
Gilda would have never been on board with this, may they both rest in peace.
Also does this mean they might AI that POS Uncle Joe? Not the actor (Jack Albertson) the character.
I also bet we see strong opposition from Tim Burton and Johnny Depp
Regardless of one's taste, Depp's and Chalamet's Wonka impressions are both better that the slop Netflix is going to cre- I mean, generate out of this.
Chalamet's Wonka was actually surprisingly brilliant. I wasn't even going to watch the movie, they just happened to be showing it at the airport while I was on a long layover so I figured what the hell. I'm really glad I did
I called this shit 30 years ago. Not sure who here remember the Budwiser commercial with John Wayne. On that day I told anyone who would listen give it enough time and they will bring dead actors back from the dead to make movies and tv shows.
Here we are, how much longer before they bring back the greats? John Candy, Chris Farley, hell John Belushi. Maybe Rodney Dangerfield.
Remember when couple assholes tried to bring back George Carlin? Just matter of time and family that cares more for money then the person they lost. Or better yet just wait long enough for the technology to get good enough and those left that will be so far removed that why wouldn't they take a million to allow great uncle or grandpa likeness be used?
And don't forget all the musicians that could be brought back cranking out AI music. Bet they sell million albums of new songs sung by "Elvis "
Going be brave new world soon. Good news for us is that for small artists, and independent films will become more popular. Because we will always choose people over robots. At least I hope so.
Because we will always choose people over robots
I worry that we simply won't be given any human choices eventually
What would you pirate in a world of AI Slop?
The answer is nothing. Now to prepare for the overthrow of the capitalist class since the treats are all dried up.
Win Win
YOu WillL 0wN nOtHiNg aNd Be hApPy!!! 🤬
What I think you mean is all you have is a turd sandwich that you tryin to rent.
I'd rather hold my hog and stare at a wall.
Kicking a can is better than the gipity man....
I will waste my time not you.
The backlash will be stronk
X to doubt
Only old people who don't give a shit will watch it anyway.
Old people who don't give a shit are the main target audience for AI slop.
Spinning in his grave
At the very least he's doing somersaults.
Imagine being dead and still giving a shit about this. Move to the light, dude.
Maybe she needs more dependable income from residuals. I can't excoriate her for that. Not every famous dude's widow is rolling in liquidity. It doesn't make good ragebait click, so sure, assume away. Her side of the story is probably prosaic, no one wants to hear about needing another stent or something.
Yeah, the decision to allow this can be complex. But the system that exists that asks this question is insane and what we should be fighting against.
Just his voice, though? Ressurect him entirely! we want to see something!1!11!! And while at it, maybe a few other dead actors as well. They could all play some character in the movie. And we got some really good authors and storywriters who are dead. Maybe let AI cook up the story in their beloved style... And if it works out great, why not do all the visuals and effects this way, too?
And I never got why they do re-runs on TV. Why not delete the old episodes and let people watch AI Columbo investigate in the slop-70s? That'd be great. Go, Nextflix! We're all counting on you.