Work Reform

How do they even tell if you're homeless? It seems like a pretty fallible conviction to ruin someone's life.. Like what if your bus got delayed?

That's called slave labour. Here you go again USA.

If a person has a criminal conviction for homelessness, how likely they are to pass the background check with that conviction?

It feels like poor->homeless->convict->unemployable->indentured servant is the expected career transition.

They've just re-instituted slavery.

Stop upvoting twitter/x posts you idiots, write the thing yourself

They want all the resources of the world to serve their interests, with a little sadism on the side.

Prison (hell #1) and homelessness (hell #2): the two whips of the capitalist state to lash us into wage labour slavery. "No underpaid job can be too bad to accept, or do you want to risk not be able paying your exorbitant rent, risk to become homeless? Sell your labour for the lowest price so some capitalist can make 2-3 times the profit of what you gain, which is bareley enough to pay another capitalist your rent." This is what the capitalist state enforces by holding up these two hells. We don't have a prison system by accident, homelessness is not a natural phenomenon. They exist by design. It's not about the money that prisons cost in comparison to what housing a homeless person costs. The money for prisons is a fair price to pay for a capitaliat state given the MUCH larger sum of money that its capitalist class can extract of us by making us obedient and doing the even shittest job for the shittest pay to suck the most possible surplus out of our work. Become communist. Sabotage. Seize the means of production. Be a grain of sand in this machine.

Yeah, why don't these guys just stop being poor and homeless?

/s

The South loves slavery, more at 11. This is why the US should have punished the Confederacy as the treason it was instead of coddling them.

The Government of Putin are masters of cheap labor. That's why the fucknuts rarely send ICE to rural red counties.

Permanently house and feed someone? $16,000 seems quite a bit too low. That might cover food alone I would imagine, depending on the person's age. More so if it's like a 30 year old less so if they are 60.

All of America's laws are based on what puritanical, religious losers want.

The post-Civil War south is why we have the prison labor system we have. Abraham Lincoln was too busy being dead to stop defacto slavery being implemented to the benefit of the loosing side.

Not disagreeing, but can I get a source for those figures?

You mean the crime is punished with enslavement.

These numbers are going to need context.

$66,000 for how long? A year? Median across all sentences regardless of length?

If $16,000 houses AND feeds a homeless person permanently, how long exactly are we letting them live before euthanasia? There's no "permanent" when it comes to feeding or even housing, both include ongoing costs. 16 grand is a couple of years' food costs for me. More than 1, fewer than 10.

Note that I'm not arguing against housing the homeless obviously. Besides the obvious "what the fuck" factor of making homelessness a crime, incarceration by definition can't be cheaper because it involves housing, feeding AND guarding them. I just would prefer there to be more context when numbers are thrown around like that.

Important to note this isn't new or restricted to red parts of the country. Vagrancy laws, laws against loitering, etc are all ways of criminalizing the poor to ensure we are all loyal wage slaves, and to a lesser extent feeding the prison-industrial complex. Many Steinbeck novels touch on this so it was a prevalent cultural touchstone in the 30s

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

Ummm $16k is barely above the US Federal poverty level.

They don't care because the breakdown is:

The tax-payer is out 66k in order to imprison the homeless That 66k goes to a prison, the prison makes money The imprisoned person is enslaved to prison labor, which the prison then leases out. The prison makes money.

The prison lobbies politicians to be "tough on crime" and pass laws that criminalize more and more things instead of helping people, that way the prison will make more and more money.

The people would be happier, healthier, and pay less in taxes if we just helped people, but we never will because helping people doesn't make prisons money. Same thing for policing. Police, as an institution, did not begin as law enforcement. They began as slave catchers. Their attitude and overall goal has remained the same. The police exist to ticket and fine people wherever possible in order to generate revenue, and, when able, arrest and charge people with the goal of filling prisons with slave labor.

If you eliminate the part of the 13th amendment that says 'except as punishment for convicted crime' and make slave labor illegal period, and in fact, make it illegal for any entity anywhere to profit off of incarcerated persons, you will eliminate a metric shit ton of problems in the U.S.

I would like to permenantly house and feed myself for $16k. I have cash. Tell me how

Elon Musk said he'd end world hunger if that were something that could be done. The United Nations World Food Programme did the math: $6.6 billion per year. That's it! You can guess how much the world's richest man has donated toward this cause...

Tax subsidized slavery for anyone who can't afford a home?

What a horrible state.

When I was in junior high I asked someone what the difference was between a republican and a democrat. They said republicans create jobs for the homeless, while democrats just want to give them money. It didn't make much sense until about 10 years later.

But now, the fight homelessness by just making it illegal...

12.50$ in total to my name. I'm getting real tired of evil. Really, freaking tired. The options are dwindling.