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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
The political right hates AI a little less than the left, but not by super much, and some forces from the emerging America First movement are getting ready to protest AI's invasiveness and capacity for manipulation. The org is called Humans First, and they're trying to have a 50501-style nationwide protest about it on July 18th. If both sides cooperate on this one, good things can actually happen, so this should get talked about. A lot. https://www.humansfirst.com/
Man, even when they're doing something good, they still have to frame it as "I come first!"
Conservatives categorically lack the brain capacity to consider others, never mind put them first.
Seems more like a lack of empathy than brain capacity. Moral and intellectual defects are not the same.
Actually there's a fair amount of emerging neuroscience that shows that the brains of people with conservatives worldviews have lowered activity in the regions that process empathy, lowered activity in the regions that engage and resolve conflicts , and biased towards feeling threatened in a safe situation.
We do though. The entire lexicon of racism is ripe to be repurposed for shit-talking AI, because clankers literally aren't people and they actually do make society worse. For the first time in human history, there is something out there that it is morally correct to be bigoted at. I think the slogan also carries the subtle implication that the people behind AI aren't totally human too, which is great. Fuck clankers.
Sure, but "clankers" aren't a thing. AI isn't sentient, the humans creating and pushing AI are. They're our real enemies. Being angry at "clankers" is like seeing a guy coming at you with a knife and punching the knife.
I personally believe that sometimes to get a message across you have to leave morality behind to appeal to the base who is recieving the message.
I know its bad if I call elon musk a "retard", or if I embrace racisim when I use words like clanker.
But one of the biggest lessons I think we all missed is that during the alt right pipeline around like 2012 was created by embracing the energy of edgy kids. Those kids are adults now and the ones who still are living in gamer gate culture war bs. Those are the people who get pysoped into believing in whatever trump says because they're just tapping into emotions they got trained to get rage baited by when they where 15, and learned all the shitty talking points that they Still repeat 20 years later.
I'm going to say its bad praxis to try to educate someone when instead we should be taking the low hanging fruit and just dunking on them as if we are going back to the age when we called things "gay." We have for force a cultural normity of bullying people for trying to say dumb racist things, as apposed to this momish/teacher lecture that we can't help ourselves from doing. I'm doing it right now.
Embracing terms like clanker and just straight up bullying ai defenders is good praxis IMO.
...And yes I understand local Ai is different and kind of cool, but you have to understand you are like 1% of the people who even use Ai. When the world as a whole says "Ai" they are thinking of the corperate giants who run LLMs like claude or chatgpt. If the term Ai has to get hijacked and turned into this vauge watered down word that refers to LLMs, then Ai as a whole has to get smeared and you have to accept the fact we are rarely ever talking about you. Running a local Ai model is probably infinitely less problematic, and if there was some socialist automation revolution it would come from someone like you using local Ai models.
How amazing would it be if our hatred for AI slop is what finally unites the working class against the billionaires?
In a sense, it will
There was a guy who started talking about how they used AI in their ads and noticed way less conversion rate. They decided, fuck it, like write on cardboard and do something real and human. Waaaay better results.
I think the big wigs are going to realize they're getting ripped off by AI, told it's the future and that they need to invest and adopt before anyone else, and they're now realizing they're spending millions to save thousands.
This is what always gets me.
US dems will throw their leaders under the bus in a split second, or fry them over the slightest past scandal.
Even those that won't will criticize them over specific issues.
Most Republicans, no matter what, cannot blame Trump.
He is objectively, full-throated pro Big Tech; he invited them all to Washington. He is talking about a national OpenAI stake, he is talking up data centres, he literally brought Elon Musk into his cabinet. He's publicly received hundreds in millions of dollars in donations from Tech CEOs! Repeatedly.
Yet even this movement simply cannot bring themselves to say "maybe he's wrong on this one?"
One of the big common themes of conservatism is following the leader. They all want to bend the knee. They love hierarchy.
Well, the flip-side is there doesn't seem to be nuance or waffling, either.
To Republicans, he's either with them, or not; regular folks who break with Trump over an issue seem to renounce him entirely, from what I've seen.
...Hence I'm positing this could be a breaking point.
I think some Trump supports who join this movement, and start watching his actions closely, are going to hit it. Some already did over Epstein, but this is an issue with broader direct impact in peoples' lives.
Musk was never in his cabinet, that requires Senate confirmation.
Turns out you don't need to be in the cabinet to completely fuck the country up
"The conservative movement has been transformed by President Trump into a movement that puts the interests of everyday Americans first. Now, Big AI globalists seek to hijack our movement to get Washington, D.C. to put Big AI before the American people."
First of all, LOL
Secondly, the calls are coming from inside the party, dipshits.
I don’t care about inflation
Donald J Trump, convicted rapist
Didn't he even recently say that he loves inflation? Lol
Humans First is a conservative social movement that is dedicated to ensuring that the future of AI is in the hands of everyday people.
That doesn't sound anti-AI to me.
The cool new shill tactic is to pretend to be anti-AI or "concerned about AI" so they can hijack the conversation and re-direct people's focus away from actual change and regulation. They bring up do-nothing solutions like "Local LLMs" or a there being a "public stake" in the industry.
Lemmy is absolutely thick with these cockroaches.
Honestly. It reads like they want the government, specifically their dear leader, to do a hostile takeover of the AI companies so they can control it.
"IT'S AFFECTING ME NOW!!!!"
Think they'll beat the living fuck out of some cops and attempt to murder some politicians? Seems to be the standard for their "protests".
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Anti AI, anti cops, and anti politicians is a threefer.
Me, with my broken digital clock: 🤔
It's 88:88 somewhere.
Fake ass protest. Conservatives love AI.
The cool new shill tactic is to pretend to be anti-AI or “concerned about AI” so they can hijack the conversation and re-direct people’s focus away from actual change and regulation. They bring up do-nothing solutions like “Local LLMs” or a there being a “public stake” in the industry.
Lemmy is absolutely thick with these cockroaches.
It's fake concern all right. In Florida, DeSantis is term-limited out after this next election (YAY!), and Trump's hand picked candidate is Byron Donaldson.
This week he started running anl campaign ad in which he shows concern for data centers, and has some utility rate protection he's pushing. It makes him sound a bit anti-data center, so I looked it up.
Turns out he LOVES data centers, he's just doing this one little thing so he can sound like he's pushing back against them, and ease the biggest worry of MAGAs - higher utility bills. They don't care if it destroys the environment, they just don't want to pay more for it.
I think Conservative$ love it. But the "conservative base" doesn't.
what? it’s coming from your own people
yeah the GOP will produce an edict about how AI is good and they'll probably fall in line.
Well, except the ones paying more for everything - hey wait a minute, that's what we get with everything GOP what the fuck
Makes sense. Both the Harkonnens and the Atreides were anti ai.
Like other commenters are saying: it’ll be sweet if anti ai sentiment unites people but the entirety of human history suggests people will cooperate until the threat is over and then they’ll break upon lines of who wipes standing or sitting or some other dumb shit.
Big AI globalists seek to hijack our movement to get Washington, D.C. to put Big AI before the American people.
Wow!! Who invited big AI to DC??
Tap for spoiler
It's funny to me when their supreme leader keeps using ai generated videos to "own" his enemies. Did you all see the one of him as a doctor diagnosing TDS?
Lefties should co-opt it
No. Co-opting shit is one of the worst tendencies that comes out of the left
But they could go and support it. Imagine organising a conservative anti-ai rally and getting met not with a counter protest, but with a horde of left/progressive people supporting your core message. It would be a head fuck and maybe enough to make you start questioning your reality and allegiances.
I wonder how many years until they find out what their legislators have been doing to promote AI?
A lot of them only recently found out that Bush admin gave Epstein a plea deal and that Reagan is largely responsible for the IRGC being sponsored by and alligned with China.
This feels super weird. Would they turn liberals away if they showed up? (Or at least tell them to go protest across the street because "this side is for anti-globalists" or whatever.) I dunno, just seems odd to try to create a popular movement specifically by alienating people who would agree with them on that particular issue.
doubtful, since conservatives are almost always protesting out of selfishness, they voted for this to happen and just now they dont like it because its literally on thier doorsteps.
Occupy Wall Street taught us one thing; trying to cooperate with conservatives is like trying to fuck a cactus. In theory, it could fit in that hole. In practice, it'll do more damage than anything else.
Maybe the USA has finally found an issue to get behind and unify itself against?
I hate AI because I don't want some rando easily doxing me for no good reason anytime they want. I assume the other side wants the same. They don't want us to find out about all the little nasty evil things they do. I can get behind that, I understand.
Holy shit that site is cancer, both visually and politically. I would love to be involved in a mass protest against AI, but I'd rather not feel obligated to punch a Nazi in the process.
Thanks for the list of targets. The enemy of my enemy isn't my friend, if they also explicitly consider me to be less than human
Your enemy is the capitalist class, not uneducated proles with a false sense of class solidarity.