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[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 286 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's like corporations don't know how to do anything but enshittify anymore

[–] Action_Bastid@lemmy.world 158 points 4 days ago (12 children)

It's the ultimate push to turn everything into the perfect Capitalist (not market-oriented) business solution: Getting paid for nothing

If your goal is to accumulate capital, and there are not outside forces regulating your worst impulses, you ultimately will create a class of legal-protected thieves, since the absolutely best and most risk free way to accumulate capital is to be given it in exchange for quite literally nothing.

Gambling is about as close to the platonic ideal as you can, but conquest by military force of political capture is also a very, viable route. Use the law to force people to buy your nothing and be protected for it, rather than being lynched when you steal someone's products.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 4 days ago (4 children)

any company born after 1993 can’t make good products… all they know is exploitation, fire their workers, enshittify, be pink capitalist, eat hot cash & lie

(yes i know sony was founded before 1993 thank you)

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

End of an era for just about everything. Streaming is all enshitified. The job market is shit. Democracy is falling apart. Decades of progress being undone. It's just the way it will be until people get sick of all this shit and start doing things differently and move on. All the great old companies are dead. Either turned to zombie brands or run by zombies. I remember how excited I was to buy my first Sony Trinitron, my first walkman, my Sony component stereo, first PlayStation.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

At some point Sony bought a Movie Studio in the US and a few years afterwards the company leadership started coming from their Media division instead of their Engineering division.

This was in the early 00s.

That was when Sony started enshittifying, with things like locking down their consumer devices (not just to block copying but also to do things like segment markets via region locking) and at one point they even shipped Music CDs with a PC Rootkit (the infamous "Sony Rootkit" scandal).

IMHO, Sony was maybe one of the first large companies to start enshittifying.

I've actually been boycotting Sony since then, so roughly for 2 decades now.

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[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (15 children)

If buying does not equal owning something, piracy can't equal theft. At this rate, what's the point of consoles?

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

No, this is just playstation continuing to hate their customer base.

They've always hated their customers. Between Sony, and Nintendo, I dont know who hates their customers the most... but they both certainly try.

and it doesnt matter, because they both have enough fanboys that strip off their clothes and gleefully dance naked and joyous in the rain of shit both companies sputter out of their assholes and down onto their customers.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 123 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Its like they saw how much Xbox has been sucking and thought "hold on, instead of building on this market lead, I bet we could beat Xbox in enshittifying!"

[–] madowlx@lemmy.world 83 points 4 days ago

Ever since the PS3 and Xbox 360, it's like the console wars have just been about them trading whose turn it was for the next PR disaster. Racing to the top was too expensive so they race to the bottom instead.

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[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I don't understand why anyone would choose to buy a console after this. The only draws of consoles was the turnkey hardware, which you can generally get with Proton now, and access to physical games, which won't be a thing soon. Now it's just a locked-down PC with a DRM storefront that makes you pay a subscription to pay online games and which may or may not have backwards compatibility from system to system.

Maybe that's just the PC gamer in me talking. Are there any advantages to console anymore? Like, a single benefit?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Can anyone come up with a single example of an industry that's not getting simultaneously worse (and/or smaller), and more expensive?

[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Actually open source software just keeps getting better and better. I'm amazed at how much stuff I can run on my own computers for free!

However with AI flooding open source projects with security vulnerabilities and things, this is subject to change (but hopefully not)

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Costco hotdogs. That's about it. Maybe arizona ice tea?

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[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not really end of an era, you're just witnessing a monopoly forming since Xbox is pretty much dead in the water. I guess it's technically a duopoly since Nintendo is fine, but Nintendo kinda does its own thing without regard to what others do. Basically, with Xbox out of the picture, Sony is free to do whatever it wants.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe sega will make a come back lol

[–] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Just in time for the Code Veronica remake. Maybe it'll be a launch title.

[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's where Valve comes in. They're the threat Playstation is most worried about right now.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

People on Lemmy and other gaming communities are vocal and interact, but it may still be true that the silent majority of the game-playing population still prefers the dumb quick-setup box to play their 8 editions of Madden.

I’d like it if Valve or any more responsible company could jump in, but barely anyone has the chip contracts to manufacture for it (certainly not including Valve given they can’t meet demand)

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

definitely end of an era.
I'm not buying a console without physical media.

Sony can kill the second hand market if they want, but that was the last thing that differentiated them from Steam. Good bye Playstation, i'll remember you fondly.

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[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 76 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)
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[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 80 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I can’t speak to market trends, but I can say this 100% makes my PS5 my last Sony console. I’ve bought every one, and the only reason I continue to buy them is so I can collect exclusives on disc for my collection.

A digital only console is just a bad, expensive gaming PC. I already have a good expensive gaming PC, so I’ll just buy games digitally there.

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[–] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Don't forget they also paid $3.6 Billion for Bungie just to shut down their most popular game and put all their hope in their new extraction shooter that's been struggling. No new games in dev or even green lit. Also they just laid off a bunch of people.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Don't forget that they've halted PC ports for their games, including shitcanning nearly-complete work on Ghost of Yōtei.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

A funny anecdote from outside gaming land:


Sony mirrorless cameras, even MEGA expensive ones, have this quirk where they can’t film 30P HEVC video.

The A6700 for instance, can record 24, 30, 60 h.264, but only 24 or 60 h.265. The A7C II is particularly handicapped, with only 24 h.265.

The $7000 A1 flagship is the same. It doesn’t make any sense; all their hardware supports it.

Why?

Well, people kept asking Sony, and someone finally got a response:

https://us.community.sony.com/s/question/0D54O00007B6m2ISAR/why-sony-a7s-iii-doesnt-support-25-or-30-fps-in-h265-codech265-is-available-for-24-50-60-100-120-fps-but-not-the-once-ive-mentioned-aboveplease-sony-update-this-h265-is-going-to-get-more-and-more-popular-with-new-powerful-laptops-coming?language=en_US

Hello, Sony's commitment to customer satisfaction is our top priority. The reason for that is that we determined the current product specifications from our analyses of target users and available technologies. For XAVC HS, we envision users enjoying HLG movies by connecting the camera to an HDR (HLG) compatible BRAVIA TV over HDMI, and 60p is what we view as the default setting for playback with it. To record movies in higher quality in 4K/30p, we would recommend selecting XAVC S and XAVC S-I, 10-bit 4:2:2 sampling, either Long GoP and All-I codec. Could you tell us how creators such as yourself want to use HEVC at 30p so we can provide feedback to our design team?


I found that oddly enlightening.

“Well, it’s not optimal for a BRAVIA TV over HDMI, so why would users want this? Why is it worth it for us to waste half a kilobyte for this option in the UI?” Sony cannot fathom anything outside that.

It makes that whole list in OP’s post make total sense. It’s not even cynicism on their part; with that mindset, what would they need a disk player for? What value is Bluepoint is a business review?

They literally cannot understand why PlayStation users would want any of those things. It’s outside the domain.

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[–] MasterOfProton@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bad notice…. I like phisical disc, not is good for ever this system, and one question: you pay the game, but not is you own, not?

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago

The entire reason I've ever bought consoles and games was because I could get used games at a bargain and also sell my old consoles and game collections when I'm done with them. I can't imagine that I'm the only person who looked at it this way.

Now console producers pull shit like this when they can't even claim to be more user friendly than PC because SteamOS is a real competitor.

Well I guess it was good while it lasted, at least until the last few years when greed fully took over. Microsoft is already on it's last leg and Sony and Nintendo are going to follow eventually.

[–] ritsku@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s the end of PlayStation for me. Hopefully someone else will come out with something decent.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It warms my heart to see that EVERY comment on Sony's blog post about it is negative. Hope the decision ends up biting Sony in the ass, but even if not, at least people weren't silent about it.

EDIT: and they're being yelled at everywhere else on the internet that people can post as well. Good.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I bought every PlayStation ever released. I will not be buying this one. Consoles are supposed to get cheaper over time. The gaming sector is going to go tits up and I hope it does.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

It's a historic moment to see an almost 6-year old console appreciate and not depreciate in value over time. Never before seen in the ~40 years of gaming. It's insane

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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago

Meh, I’m done with consoles. The exclusives will come to emulators eventually, and there will be plenty of PC games in the meantime.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They're also shutting down PS3 and PSVita store access, to add insult to injury.

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[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why are people still buying shit from Sony? It would be less work to just flush your cash directly down the shitter.

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[–] forzanature@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I feel like defending consoles is a lost cause at this point. We can’t trust any of the big 3 anymore.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 31 points 4 days ago

I don't pay $70 for a game I can't even sell after using it.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

They're betting on consumers being too impulsive and stupid to care, and... they're probably right. Nothing's stopped them before, this likely isn't a new line in the sand for them.

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