“All Steam Games With LGBTQ+ Content Blocked From Release in China and Russia Due to Local Bigorty Laws Limiting Such Content”
Funny how rearranging a few words can shift blame around. Thanks, Fascist propagandists, and their collaborators.
Exactly, its the county's fault, not steams fault.
It's amazing how valve gets a free pass.
Coke has the balls to even just sell their product in Russia: you fucking greedy donkey.
Valve goes along blocking lgtb games, just following orders boss.
Just fantastic.
So what should steam do, break the law in those countires?
Stop selling games. Leave the country and tell people to fuck off. Cause outage.
Out of every big company out there, steam has the easiest path forward to do so. No shareholders. Gabe can easily do what's right. He won't though. Too busy playing scientist on his yacht funding his kids racing career while moron gamers give him a free pass on his monopoly because valve is such a cool company 🙄.
How is that going for McDonalds in Iran. Has the people outraged the government yet?
Should they withdraw from the US as well for their support of Israel? Or their immigration abuses? Or for the rampant corruption?
Companies generally operate in any country meeting the requirements of anyone that is not in breach of international law.
Leave activism to people and politicians.
I think putting (edit: some of) the heat on Valve here is reasonable. If they had a principled stance on being pro-LGBTQ+, they might refuse to sell any games in those regions. But they are choosing instead to let the lgbtq+ folks take the hit so that they can continue to rake in the big bucks from those regions.
Obviously I wouldn't actually expect an enormous capital driven machine like Valve to do something like that, but its just an extra nudge on the gauge of my opinion of them as a company
Are you okay with losing all your Steam games once your country also passes such a law?
I'd cheer valve on for taking a principled stance against bigotry in my country while personally grieving the loss of my steam library.
I doubt it'll make a difference. Also almost all my LGBTQ friends are huge gamers. It's an escape, and often provides online community. And I'm in a very liberal country and they still need it here. Can't imagine the need for it in China or Russia. Whether that's healthy is a big question, but the rug pull definitely won't be.
I guess there's an argument to be made for just stopping selling games in those regions while keeping access to existing libraries
That's a looot of users they'd need to support without seeing any money from them. Might be worth it if they expect the laws to be temporary.
Be a good little fedi, put your money where you mouth is and get ready to sacrifice. Jesus Christ, 'waahhhhh, I'd have to start stealing my games '.
Jesus Christ the second valve gets involved you all become spinless DNC cunts.
Steam didn’t make the decision, China and Russia did
Steam is making a decision by continuing to do business in regions that made those decisions
In the case of China, Steam very much made this decision on their own, or received bad advice and did so.
But they happily obeyed the orders of Russia and China.
Why do you run cover for a face- and soulless corporation like Valve?
They're not even blocked. Valve did the absolute bare minimum to skirt past China's restrictions. The only thing they did was make it so you can't search or filter by that tag. The tagged games themselves remain accessible.
Simp
I mean, I guess it's better than all of Steam being blocked like it has been in the past. Not really their fault. Gaming is really frowned on my the Chinese government in general since it's harder to control the subject matter than with videos that can just be scanned for key words and blocked or edited. But sucks that they even have an LGBTQ+ classification at all. Even if it may have originally been to help LGBTQ+ people find inclusive media, it's obvious that those kinds of things are always used for censorship more than inclusivity. The flags should instead be on the anti-LGBTQ+ content, not regular, inclusive of real society content.
Oh, I hate Gaben/Steam/Valve for this crap! Just don't follow these stupid "laws" and get blocked. Then allow people from these countries to change country in their profiles. People in China and Russia use VPN ether way.
So hand over an extremely lucrative market to a competitor who's willing to obey a sovereign nations laws?
Yes.God I loathe how Lemmy goes into full corporate simp mode when it's steam.
Gabe can give up one of his yachts.
Fuck valve and the gamers who simp for Gabe. One man can change this if he wasn't a greedy cunt.
I think Fuck China and Fuck Russia would be more useful responses to this.
Different countries have different laws, should not be a surprise. If you want to make business there you follow the laws. Same as the reason why mobiles now all have USB-C, laws in the EU. Or why you can decline to have your data collected (if any website doesn't just ignore your choice) because of Laws in some country.
Is it terrible that a country is violating, what we consider human rights? yes.
Fuck you. God forbid valve make less money and not sell games where they are knowingly supporting this fuckery. Fuck Gabe, fuck Valve, fuck the stupid gamers that will continuously mindlessly supporting him buying more yachts, and fuck you for trying to defend his behavior. Gaymer class traitor.
I've got no problem here. It might've only been temporarily blocked. LGBTQ+ stuff isn't illegal in China, just porn. Unfortunately for steam most games with the LGBTQ+ tag also have the NSFW or Hentai tags, which are blocked.
But searching with the LGBTQ+ tag seems to work at this point.
Yet the LGBTQ+ content in Guild Wars 2 was still stripped out in China :/
I'm not able to find any information on that, can you post a source? The closest I've found is GW2 just censoring LGBTQ+ content globally.
Its been a while so I'm rusty but I found this reddit link from the time
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/tawl48/the_scene_of_jory_and_kas_at_the_end_of_eods/
Weird that thread's no longer there on Tieba, but since I don't play the game and can't find any other reference I'll assume it's real. Foreign companies do tend to get the weirdest advice to pass NPPA and they were a lot more strict in order to encourage domestic competition even just a few years ago, like the 'skulls' censorship in blizzard games.
I can say safely though there are plenty of Chinese made NPPA approved games with LGBT representation, just like there are plenty of skulls.
I'll have to take your word for it :3
Once again, eat the rich. Until not everybody is free, no one is free.
Unfortunately in a lot of places anti-lgbtq isn't necessarily a class war, that is it's more of a culture war.
Usually a culture war started to distract from the class war
I wouldn't say that, usually they start organically from what I've seen. It's more so that they are blown up into much bigger issues than they actually are by those seeking power whether that be to attack a group or to galvanize their base. Starting a culture war out of thin air is nearly impossible. Like imagine getting people to fight over which end to crack an egg.
You can easily tell people that being trans is a sin or some shit and watch the religious poor people fight the trans people instead of the rich
Yeah but it's not like that tension came from nowhere whatsoever. There was already some tension there even without any media. Now it becoming a national or global conversation for years upon years is very arguably overblown as compared to home much natural tension was there and how important the issue actually is in the scheme of things.