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[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Since this is the closest thing I've seen to an architecture discussion on Lemmy, can I sidetrack this conversation?

I really want to talk about how I simultaneously love the Obamas and hate a lot of their style choices. The Brutalism of his new presidential library is... Imposing and unwelcoming.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of people love Brutalism, but it's not for me either.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I love brutalism. I'm also not a fan of the design of the library.

Brutalism kind of requires an environment. But it's like a jagged tooth sticking out of a garden. Like a giant lawn rock. Lift it up and you'll find the keys to the American dream. Locked away like some davinci code nonsense.

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus. That looks like Bracknell.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

Google search for Bracknell just pointed me to a town in England. What are we talking about here?

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 3 points 10 hours ago

OoOoOoOoO.... I can't leave... Do you know what type of interest loan I have? OoOoOo

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 hours ago

modern ghosts haunt abandoned bowling alleys instead...

[–] nerv@fedinsfw.app 4 points 17 hours ago

I can't find a picture to post but recently the building fad in my country for single family homes is cubes. Literally, cubes. The houses are made of grouped cubic structures. No rounded surfaces, no decorative details. A bit like watered down brutalism.

Can't imagine those houses aging well.

Meanwhile, old stone houses just look... good. Renovated, awsome. Abandoned, creepy. No ghosts though.

[–] catboy_slim@lemmy.zip 11 points 22 hours ago

Haunted houses are old. There's no way McMansions will last long enough for ghosts to sprout.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 1 day ago (5 children)

All I am seeing here, is the insane yearly cost of recurring maintenance on an old wooden house...*shudders*

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago
[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really not that bad except the paint job every 10-20 years which costs as much as a new car, but back in the day they had oil paint which didn't peel like latex does. Still, imo, worth it to live in an historic, unique, drag queen of a home.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I suppose if you can afford a house like this you can afford a really nice new car every so often. A really nice car. Because a full scraping, sanding, and repair plus 2-3 color paint can cost over $100,000.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or ... you just develop a hobby of house painting...

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As someone with an old wooden house, it's actually not bad. They're built so damn well that they just.. stay there.

The expensive part is if you need to do any renovations. Updating electrical, plumbing, and HVAC sucks.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I honestly don't understand the houses going up in my neighborhood - it's getting gentrified and what is being built is so ugly. Who is buying these ugly ass houses for 1.5 MILLION dollars? If that was my budget I'd build something beautiful with a big porch like this picture, but all the "luxury" homes are boxes with big garages in front. I look at them on Zillow and they aren't even pretty on the inside.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Vinyl siding never looks good. Use any other material. And the insides are all sterile tones of grey. All the "luxury" apartments in my area are all grey. The floors this grey vinyl pho wood. Grey cabits and counters. Bleh

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 1 points 7 hours ago

Faux. Pho would imply they are made of soup.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah ours has the vinyl and it does cheapen the look. It's on the list. The boxes though - they are just blocks made with concrete blocks and stucco-ed.

I like some gray but gray fake wood floors are among the worst, who thought that would look good for more than 5 minutes? I don't like marble floors either. Wood in a wood color is #1, terrazzo is fine, nice tile is fine.

I do know people have different taste but don't think that this exterior or interior could be pleasing to anyone, and again the house was well over a million $. Though to be fair they had to drop it from 1.5 to 1.2 to sell it, that is still too much and nobody is building anything reasonable except people who are hiring their own builders. All the speculative ones are either straight up boxes or something like this, going into a neighborhood that was just little houses, frame or block. For that $$ I would want much more kitchen too.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I work for a city that's an enclave for the mega-rich and is going through hyper-gentrification. People are buying 3 million dollar houses, tearing them down, and building 15 million-dollar houses.

It's the 1%ers being pushed out by the .01%ers. It's a whole different planet.

But the contractors still suck and cut every corner they can, so it really is the same anywhere you go.

[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

And they all look alike in some developments. One cheap house after another, all exactly alike. Crap materials, horrible construction. Seriously, who wants to live in that kind of neighborhood?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100 years from now haunted house stories will be about boxes with big garages in front.

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

...that's essentially already liminal horror; it's been a thing my entire life but most folks don't recognise its modern incarnation since pop culture associates the genre with period affections of liminal horror from a century ago...

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Am I the only one or does that picture look kind of uncanny?

I can't place it... It looks uneven and wavy.

I smell burnt toast.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We figured out how to install gas lines appropriately. Many "ghosts" were gas inhalation induced hallucinations.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And 'juvenile delinquency' stopped after they took lead out of gasoline.

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's amazing how much the violent crime rate went down with the removal of leaded gas.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like to read science fiction from that time and look at the things the authors, some of them actual scientists, overlooked.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

An example of things that authors missed! I just watched a YouTube video looking at the history of instant communication devices in Sci-fi and Fantasy, and also how the author thought to use them in the narrative; contrasting that with how we'd actually use them through our modern understanding. They go on to argue that usage of instant communication is now so ubiquitous to our collective psyche that current sci-fi and fantasy stories can just invent it in basically every setting nowadays. It's actually a really easy thing to cook up if your narrative has any kind of magic system, be it science or standard issue. https://youtu.be/2Pw_7vAK9k8

Are video essays, specifically ones about storytelling, my special interest? Yes, but I hardly see how that's relevant.

(That's an example of lampshading)

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

To wax pedantic.

Starting with the last. Read a play called "We Bombed In New Haven" by Joseph Heller. It's all about smashing the fourth wall.

You might want to look up thse books. David Gerrard's The making of Star Trek, and The Making of 2001 by Stephanie Schwam. Both deal with the problems of creating a science fiction movie at a time when every special effect had to be 'practical' and handmade. For example, on Star Trek there was a scene that involved a salt shaker. Production brought a dozen exotic looking shakers, only for them to decide that those things looked too weird and that the audience wouldn't understand what they were. In the end they used a salt shaker from the NBC commissary and gave the others to Dr. McCoy to use in sickbay.

Also, think on this. To 1960s audiences Uhura as Communications Officer was a big deal. The audiences had grown up with [or actually lived through] WW2 stories where the radio operator was a vital member of the team. With improved communications tech, the people who made The Next Generation decided that the bridge no longer needed a dedicated Communicatuions Officer.

Finally, I can name a dozen stories where a Faster Than Light traveler gets a paper letter or a telegram.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It's because it's now dead malls that are getting haunted. To know what's worth haunting today we'll need to wait about 30 to 50 years to see what sorts of architecture is considered spooky.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm thinking the next 10-20 when all these data centers are emptied and become liminal spaces.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Say, isn't that the old Henderson place? I heard they never could find a buyer after what happened.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh wait, here comes a happy and naive young family from out of town.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Look at this place baby... So much room. I could totally see us living here the rest of our lives.

......GeT.....OuuuUuut.......

To bad we can't stay baby!

If we go by the logic in some media where the ghosts are bound to the house/property, they probably don't want to be stuck somewhere that will eventually just dissolve in the rain.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"My house is haunted."

"You live in a ranch in the suburbs built in 1983. What kind of white bread ghost stuck around that mess?"

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[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

That house looks like it's $3.2 million dollars.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I wonder if older houses seem more "hauntable" simply because they were built to facilitate air flow within them. Before air conditioning, homes had to be built to allow air to naturally circulate. Thought was placed into room, door, and window layouts to encourage air flow throughout the home, windows were designed to fully open, and transom windows allowed air flow even when doors were closed.

The point is that old homes were built to allow air flow. This means that there's more opportunity for doors to randomly close and other things to be disturbed by the wind. Older homes also weren't as sealed and insulated as well. They were designed assuming that some of the structure would get wet and then dry out. Older buildings were designed to undergo constant moisture cycling, while newer buildings try to seal out moisture all together. More dramatic changes in lumber moisture content means more creaks, groans, and other ghostly noises.

Simply because of how buildings science has evolved, it's possible that older homes just more readily produce "haunting" sounds than modern ones.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fucking ghosts better chip in paying for the upkeep, property taxes, and everything else. No one gets to haunt for free.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Turn out haunting a house also cost some ghost buck and inflation makes haunting unaffordable.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Small houses can be scary, too! My living room when I moved in back in October (not a joke):

And there's so much more!

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