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I've worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I'm Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I'm cleaning up and writing reports).

As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor's appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you're lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.

I don't want to burn sick time for a doctor's appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don't want to use up a "vacation" day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

Working from home helps but its also partly why I downsized to a condo a few years ago.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 hours ago

We don't. We just exist. And then we die. It's monstrous.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

I worked in a callcentre for many years and had changing shifts every two weeks. Having to come in at 6am and then getting that switched to 4pm wreaked havoc on my body and after doing this for quite a while, I just crashed and got burnout.

Recovery took me two years, where I basically just slept. Five days a week are just too much, it's a system designed to squeeze the last bit of labor value out of you and I fucking hated it. Nowadays, I'm not able to physically work for more than four days, or else I'll crash again.

I had a lot of luck, so I can now work entirely from home. No commute, Fridays are off. Sounds super cozy and amazing, but the thing is: I need that Friday for myself. A lot of times I'll just sleep so I can have some energy on the actual weekend. 🫩

When it comes to doctor's appointments, I just tell my boss I have one and that's it. As it should be. We are humans, not machines.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Until recently, I had a job where I could leave whenever I wanted so long as there was nothing urgent in motion and I didn't have anything due/overdue.
My office was closed because the CEO thinks that my office's workload can be handled by a team in Philippines using AI translation tools.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

We don't. We come home around 7 and start doing the bare minimum to keep up the household letting daycares and schools raise our kids.

We clean and cook and pay our bills then we go to sleep irritated and tired and sick of the rat race.

We have sex once or twice a month and go to fucking florida once a year. That's it.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 103 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Scrolling down to this actually made me burst out with a laugh. Well done.

[–] Custard@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The concept of burning vacation / sick time for a doctor's appointment is weird to me (canada). I just say "hey boss, doc appointment this day" and he says "okay".

I feel like it depends on the company here, but I don't think I'd stay long if they made me use my time off for that.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Same thing here in Europe. You can then get a special permit from the doctor to show your employer that you were actually at a medical appointment and not smoking weed

[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Ey! My GP's notes don't mention I wasn't smoking weed. I'll have to ask them to include it next time.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

In United States of Shit, you can get a doctor's note to show employers. Most times I'll make an appointment and get the date on a doctors card and show my manager. All unpaid of course

[–] Sm0ke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 hours ago

This feels personal... I'll have you know I can smoke weed AND go to the doctor.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I work 6 to 2. If I need to take a couple hours for a medical, family issue or car appointment, then I let my boss know and he says it's okay. I'm usually able to schedule things so that I put appointments and so on when I don't have big meetings. So long as the work gets done it's cool.

If I'm feeling rotten, I phone in and say I'm either too sick to work or that I'll WFH that day.

Of course, if I have a big vacation planned then I will put in for leave. I get 25 days off a year.

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

25 a year sounds like a dream

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 20 points 11 hours ago

It doesn't work for anyone. People use up their vacation days.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 30 points 12 hours ago

Thats the neat part, we dont.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

My job is very lax, so I can just bring in a ThinkPad, and do some coding.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 hours ago

im an actor and comedian outside the corporate world. I just gig in the evening. I go on dates with my wife. I go to friends birthday parties. I work out. I garden. I play with my cat.

The bad news is - if you wanna do stuff, you gotta go do stuff

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Burn PTO. Already get up at 6 to get the kids off to school, straight to work, straight to dinner, pick one chore until i pass out, get up at 6

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Eat
Sleep

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

PTO or asking for hour flexibility. Taking off an hour or two early/coming in late because of a dr appointment for example.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 10 hours ago

I have to beg to be allowed to come in late, just to treat serious health issues. I guess the people with an actual life, are the ones that are born wealthy, or studied to do an easy-going job.

I don't think you are meant to escape with enough hard work, it is punishment for not being a good student in childhood: You get worked like a slave, your entire life, dreams, passions, dignity, all that you are, is pushed aside, as your health is slowly chipped down, until you drop dead in your 40's-50's, no retirement for you.

Then you get some bs eulogy about how you were a good, hardworking man. One of the few times ever that people will even pretend to appreciate you.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I love reading all the comments from people sharing a similar experience. This is what we deserve

[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 18 points 13 hours ago

Use up vacation days. Yes, really.

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 14 points 12 hours ago (5 children)
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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

That's the neat part, you don't.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Personally, vacation days are for medical appointments.

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Which is bullshit. We shouldn't have to do that. Vacation days should be for vacationing, or at least lounging around doing nothing.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is why the rich don't understand how the poor "can't work". They have kids yo. And lower end jobs oftenhave very strict hours. But the upper end jobs have lots of flexibility. And the rich of course just don't volunteer at their kids school, or they have a parent home with the kids to do all those things.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Last month, I was looking for advice for burnout.

The advice I found was inevitably "take a leave of absence from work and get a therapist."

What a sick fucking joke.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

why dont you just go to your summer home for a few months???

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