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TranscriptHere’s an example that Google’s Josh Woodward, VP of the Gemini app, Google Labs, and AI Studio, shared in a blog post about how Personal Intelligence can work. Google also put together a similar example in a video that I’ve embedded below:

For example, we needed new tires for our 2019 Honda minivan two weeks ago. Standing in line at the shop, I realized I didn’t know the tire size. I asked Gemini. These days any chatbot can find these tire specs, but Gemini went further. It suggested different options: one for daily driving and another for all-weather conditions, referencing our family road trips to Oklahoma found in Google Photos. It then neatly pulled ratings and prices for each. As I got to the counter, I needed our license plate. Instead of searching for it or losing my spot in line to walk back to the parking lot, I asked Gemini. It pulled the seven-digit number from a picture in Photos and also helped me identify the van’s specific trim by searching Gmail. Just like that, we were set.

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[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are there people out there that actually act like this?

[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, watch any kick streamer.

[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would I want to watch that?

I barely watch streamers and I don't know much about kick, but isn't that where a lot of conservative streamers went?

[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

It's the answer to your question. Yes, people are dumb enough that they treat AI as their own brain instead of attempting to find any information whatsoever, even when the information is directly in front of them. This phenomena is most visible on kick streams, where the dumbest possible people make more money than you ever will being a worse person than you (assuming you are not any of type of mentally ill that could be described as psychopathy) could ever be.

You could also just visit anywhere on the west coast of the US where younger gen z happens to exist in public and wait long enough. You'll hear a 'hey gemini' within 20 minutes followed by the dumbest possible question to ever leave the lips of a non-AI human form.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So the AI deeply violates your privacy, then guesses everything based on that. Omg fuck no. Keep that photo scanning AI as far from any of my devices as possible. Fuck google for even thinking this is ok. Holly shit.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

gemini why is this guy angry at you

[–] M137@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Met a dude like this at an after party a while back.
As soon as me and my friends came there this random dude had something out for me, never met him before, and I couldn't handle how much he was staring at me so I sat down and started talking to him. I'm a very unagressive person and shy away from even heated discussions, just wanted to see what the deal was and see if just talking would help the mood soften. Almost immediately he brings up the, then very current, thing about the EU voting about banning the words sausage, burger, filé etc. for non-meat products and he's fully on the side of that being a good thing. I don't agree but also never go into full on debate mode so I try to talk with him in an "interested about your views" way, ask about his experiences around it etc.
And I learn real quick that he's the kind of person who tries to find every single clumsy word choice, small hole in an argument and then goes on a completely uncalled for rant and personal attack through that. But I've learned to just continue doing what I do, I want to discuss and talk and not act like I'm superior and go for personal attacks. Of course he can't stand someone not getting angry or trying to do the same things back so after a bit he whips out his phone and says "Ok, let's as ChatGPT about these things" and I have never felt so much like bursting out in demeaning laughter as I did then. He sits there and literally just reads the answers he's been given from the obviously very skewed towards his view questions he's written. I just look at him and let him continue for a bit then stood him and say that I'm very much not ok with this, if you're gonna start a debate over something you should do that based on your knowledge and experiences, at the very most bring up a Wikipedia article but not a fucming AI chat bot. His answer is literally "I'm a junior lab assistant and have tech skills, I know that these answers are 100% correct and based on all available information online".
I couldn't even respond to that so I just say I need to take a leak and ask where the toilets are and actually went and joined some other random people, who were very nice to talk to and even discuss and debate things with.
After about an hour and a half some of them needed to go home so we go into the room where he was sitting and he's having the same fucking debate with two other dudes who are sitting there just as bewildered and annoyed as I was, I sit down next to them and join another conversation and the AI bot dude stands up, looks at us 3 he talked with like he's disgusted by our existence and just leaves.
So fucking weird, I actually feel sorry for him more than I dislike him. I hope he manages to climb out of that hole.

Sorry for the wall of text and certainly some spelling errors, gonna have to come back and format and correct stuff later tonight.

"I know that these answers are 100% correct and based on all available information online"

Okay, why'd he have to look it up, then? :p

I know what you mean, though. Sometimes they get me. They'll say something like the Grand Canyon, a naturally forming geological phenomenon, is art, and I'm like... okay. We're operating from very different principles, here.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate when restaurants go the other way, with menus on your phone through a QR code. Obviously much more convenient than having a physical menu, which is why so many restaurants in the past printed their menus on tiny phone-screen sized booklets.

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

QR code menus seemed to really take off when COVID was around, which made sense, but I guess restaurants got used to saving on printing costs and now they're here to stay.

[–] inquanto@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The only time this makes sense, is if they have a whole digital order thing going, not saying that I like that, but then at least its consistent. What I hate most is if the fucking qr code is just a link to their website, and not even the menu section. Might as well have a sign on the table that says "just google it" or something...

[–] shani66@ani.social 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's... Not how getting tires works? You pull up to whatever garage you go to, ask to get your tires replaced, and it's done in a few minutes with literally no other input needed (if it goes smoothly anyway). Even if you're going to a weird corporate place they're going to check over your car instead of asking you anything.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean there are multiple different ways tires get replaced. My process involves taking the bad wheel off of my car and having a friend drive me to the shop. The tire guy looks up the specs on my tire and I tell him to put the cheapest possible replacement on it. He takes the wheel in the shop, performs his profane black magic ritual (I have no idea how tires go on wheels), and comes out with a shiny new tire attached to the dusty old wheel, that I then take home and slap on my car.

That said, there is no situation where you'd lose your place in line. Worst case scenario, the tire guy is going to walk out to your car with you to check what tires it needs

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

with literally no other input needed

Wait, you just let them put on whatever they can get the highest margin on?!

There's a vast difference between different tire types in terms of stopping distance, wet handling, wear, road noise, comfort, ... When I walk into a tire place, you can bet I come prepared with a short list of tires that I'm willing to consider, and a pre-estimation of the price of those tires in my tire size.

Also, the tire size is literally just 3 numbers, and it's literally there on the tire. Why wouldn't you know that about your car?

The expectation is they will put on the exact same brand and model of tires if they have it, and the closest equivalent of they don't.

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[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've bought new tires from all sorts of places and people, and nobody ever asked for my license plate number. Is this an American thing?
In fact, these days, I simply order tires online and tell the company to deliver them to one of their many "partners," i.e. car repair shops. They notify me when the delivery is done, I leave the car there overnight and collect it the next morning. That's all there is to it.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m in Europe and some places ask you for your license number to auto detect what car you have. Helpful for less car minded people.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exceptionally useful for the kind of person who knows they have a 2019 Honda minivan, but can't for the life of them recall whether it's a Passport or an Odyssey

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'll take them over self-proclaimed "car guys" any day. Useful idiots so confident in their skills that they insist that "any moron" can look up the headlights and wiper blades for their "Cummins", "Duramax", or "Hemi". These are the same ones who will also yell at the service manager because the technicians "under-inflated" their tires because they weren't inflated to the sidewall pressure. Hell, I've even had them insist that major issues that could cause an accident if not corrected are "perfectly fine". Honestly, it wouldn't be a problem except that everybody else has to share the roads with their rolling death traps.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Or people who have a red car… and that’s all they know about it :)

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

No way in hell VP of Google was buying something, they have an army of slaves for that.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 139 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Working so hard to find a problem for the solution they've invented.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 59 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And they are going to destroy even the tiniest amount of progress we have made in countering carbon emission climate change. All progress complelely gone because their datacenters will use 10x more energy than we did before in a time where we should be looking to reduce our energy spending.

They will literally destroy all of us for the sake of shortsighted billions to their already huge pile of billions.

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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

For some of the situations they put forward, if you just imagine that at one point they had a personal assistant do this for them in the past, then these stupid scenarios start to make more sense.

They think it's great because it replaced the only underling they ever directly interacted with and they assume that's going to work with all the other jobs

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The number of competent experts who are impressed by an LLM wielded in their qualified field is as vanishingly infinitesimal as legitimate and justifiable invocations of the term ‘AI’.

Those who have expressed the greatest enthusiasm for ‘AI’ are typically the farthest removed from actual, nuanced comprehension.

It’s a grift economy built on statistically luke-warm, vibe lobotomised corpses.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a professional that works with software dev and I can say that LLMs and all the agent stuff keeps flipping between "surprised at what it can do" and "oh another big sign that it's just a really fancy text predictor".

At best, it has reduced the number of times I reach out to colleagues for a problem I solve myself in the process of explaining it and has helped me find obscure settings to fix obscure issues. For coding, I'm still not sure whether or not it saves time. It can write things quickly but it embeds all kinds of assumptions in there and might not even follow instructions.

Like it's safer to think of it as a conversation partner who can pretend to be many different people, including experts in the topics you discuss, but also has ADHD so severe it can switch what it is pretending to be mid-sentence. Even when you ask it to explain what happened after the fact, it just makes up more bullshit because it doesn't have thoughts or awareness, it just predicts tokens.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ask a question, they give me the wrong answer. I tell them they gave me the wrong answer. They apologize, and then repeat the same mistake in the next answer. Or they give me a different wrong answer. I eventually give up and solve it with a web search.

I don't know if my questions are about really obscure stuff or what, but it's really annoying. Like, I know that they're only predicting tokens, but how hard is it to program them to go "Okay, we've already established that this pattern of tokens is wrong, so I'm not going to include it in the next answer".

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

They have no sense of "truth", it's a complex graph and weights that predict the most likely next token. You can change the output by doing training or adjusting the context by changing the prompt (also temperature that affects the randomness).

The training data affects what it will predict, but if the training data includes a debate, then both sides get encoded into the weights and the context is what determines what "side" of the debate your response gets. It can't determine the truth; the truth doesn't even factor in to what its output is (even if it "talks" about the truth in that output).

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is Gronkh on the fediverse?

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[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good thing the person working the tire counter wouldn’t be able to recommend tires or be able to look up the trim on your vehicle

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they might try to sell you something you don't need, unlike Gemini lmao

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oh yeah, zero chance of Gemini just being another medium for advertising

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol at the article, yes tyre shops are often extremely busy with very long lines and also the people in line would definitely not allow you the courtesy of taking 10 seconds to go check your number plate in the parking lot.

These AI use cases people demonstrate are so braindead.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i love people describing use cases for ai because it’s always like "a good use case for ai is incredibly niche situation that will happen to you like maybe once a year if we’re generous where a problem presents itself that could be solved very easily without ai"

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 28 points 2 days ago

Business idiots. The people making decisions about products are idiots out of touch with the day to day life of typical people.

[–] jerebear39@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

AI is basically the magic conch from SpongeBob. ALL HAIL THE MAGICAL CONCH

[–] Sirence@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He doesn't know his own licence plate?

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That screenshot is such pyscho behavior. "Our algorithm will access any and all data it can on you to answer your question, whether you ask it to or not! Isn't that great??"

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[–] tobebannedbygaymods@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use it as my emotional dumpster

[–] pech@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ugh, same 😂😭

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

More and more. My family members have started doing it and I'm afraid.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 days ago

Wow the article, giving up that much info and privacy just for a stupid 5 second convenient. Tyre size is available on the sidewall, car number plate should be the thing you remember and commited to your memory or taken picture and then put it on "favorite", tyre brand and type should be recommended by the shop that sell them instead of Gemini. Billion dollar project for this dumbass tech and dumbass public is buying it. Next we throw away our critical thinking so billionaires can control us very easily.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

dave, DMCA would like a word about your files 👁️

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

And there is no cost at all, ever, for this "assistant" that has full access to every aspect of our life. Free and without consequences forever!

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

That blog post is pure hilarity.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not knowing your own licence plate number is indicative of being out of touch. Normal people need to know it to operate many parking ticket machines, when paying their registration, car insurance, parking in hotel car parks.

I can imagine when you have assistants to do all this you might think it's a boon to have a digital assistant help you with basic world skills. Even just the arrogance of asking an LLM for tyre information instead of asking someone at the tyre shop.

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