why dont i just put a decoy phone in there and call it a day?
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My phone works as a universal medical device. There are specialized devices that can replace my phone, and you are free to purchase them for me and pay for the associated subscription costs.
I use mine for my CGM. So yeah, that will go as far as them realizing they need to pay for extra equipment.
My work technically has that rule too but it genuinely stops getting enforced once you pass the trial period.
My boss also went hard on no private calls during work time. My colleague immediately switched his work phone off at 5pm sharp because not mixing private and work. Of course soon there was an issue at 5:30pm. It was amazing how that policy got reversed so quickly.
Good, lets prioritize retail and promote customer service again...
I mean this is already the case and has been since like the 2000s in any blue collar job. You'll get a bollocking if you're doing anything other than your work.
Yeah when I used to work in a workshop, phone stayed in your tool box except for smoko and lunch
My workplace refuses to give me a work phone. I have to use their stupid MFA app 30 times a day to if they want to take my phone away they can fuck right off.
I found that most mfa apps are not as proprietary as companies want to make you belief. My previous corp job wanted a specific one but copying the secret code into proton pass worked just fine.
Yeah, MFA is pretty standard these days. The only apps I know that do something different are the big ones. Steam, Google, Paypal...
It makes no sense to go and maintain your own MFA system as a smaller company.
Install grapheneOS on your phone, and their MFA app doesn't want to run anymore.
I had a manager collect phones once about ten years ago. I told him if he took my phone I would quit.
He did not take my phone.
I cant work if I don’t have something to listen to. I need to drown out the office noise.
If you don’t trust me to get my job done, you didn’t hire the right person.
This needs to become a human right. Fuck asshole coworkers who think they can monopolize your attention to fuck with you
As always, loss of rights for children always spreads to adults in short order.
Wait a minute... Isn't banning phones from schools a good thing? I'm not trying to be difficult here, but aren't they a huge distraction from the learning experience?
The point is regardless of if it's good or not. Removing the rights and privileges of ANY group of humans. Will spread to the rest of us. When you restrict something for children in school it almost always ends up in work places for adults. Because many companies consider the work place little more then school 2.0 when it comes to control. The employee is functioning barely more then a child as far as many companies are concerned
Children deserve rights and respect. If it's a problem you deal with it on a case by case basis. Just as you should in the work place. The sacrifice for freedom and self respect is that some people will try to take advantage of it and abuse it.
Blanket bans in all but the most extreme of cases are only considered smart by assfucks, shit stains, fascists and ignorant fuck muffins who listen to the other groups with out a second thought. And cellphones are NOT a extreme case.
For the rest of us we know how stupid they are and how many knock on problems they cause the rest of us. Or at a minimum ask and question things as to learn why there is a controversy.
So good on you for asking. Props for not being a idiot.
Hold up just a bit. It has little to do with infringing on someone's rights and more to do with ensuring our children have the best learning environment we can provide them. You can argue workplace rights in a separate argument. Children do not NEED these devices. Parents do not NEED their children to have them.
Am I the old fogey here? Do y'all not see how these devices are a detriment to their learning experience?
I can see why you are pushing back, but I can also see their point of view:
In several schools I visited the children do not have their phones banned or taken away. They simply don't use them, as they are engaged and have expectations set by their teachers to respect the classroom and their peers. Admittedly these are small classrooms, about 8 to 12 to a teacher with a lot of engagement.
But it shows that children can learn when it's appropriate or not, without a blanket ban.
Similarly, if you are an adult and expected to perform at your work, do they need to treat you like a child and ban or restrict things?
Whoa, those are small class sizes, an ex-teacher friend had 20+ grade schoolers (6-8 iirc) to manage, most were underprivileged but still had phones and spent classes goofing off on them, even though the school and my friend had set rules stating phones were not allowed during class.
I would have to check, but I don't think phones arent allowed. Its just that the kids are occupied with each other and engaged so they don't use them.
I think that speaks volumes about the education system.
Oh and just because we are challenging norms: all three schools have implemented gender neutral bathrooms. They all have private floor to ceiling stalls with a common sink area that is open to the hall way. Extremely visible common area, extremely private single occupancy do your business area. They have had zero issues.
Politicians are mad that kids have access to information like "it's OK to be gay" and "the Gaza genocide is wrong" so they're pulling every lever they can to remove that free access. Schools are already prison like environments where vague unproven "it's for education" can be asserted, so they are. So.it the freaky surveillance they're doing now. Are microphones in the bathroom "ensuring our children have the best learning environment" because they're doing that in Beverly hills now
Don't worry, you're right.
There's a very vocal subset on Lemmy who think that any issue children have must be the parents/teachers fault, and that no blanket rules should exist. It's weird.
We're reacting to extreem oversteps aginst rights which are numerous these days
It's like peeing in one side of a pool and expecting it to not spread
I assume management is free to do what they want with their phones, so they can fuck all the way off.
I'm a grown ass man, im good with all that thanks...

As an ass man, what do you like to use your phone for?
Won't be an ass man for much longer if I have a say.
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Every asinine micro-managing policy that the bosses at my workplace come up with shares a common thread…control. That and the fact that it is a non-union plant, so they can do whatever they want, whenever they want, and there is absolutely nothing the workers can say about it.
No phones? Sure, why not? The capitalists can only extract every ounce of productivity out of their workers, if they can budget every second of the worker’s time. This is of course so they can move the goal posts and demand more. Don’t worry though, they’ve got a steady stream of college grads who will start at the bottom of the pay scale, ready to take your place after the company has taken everything from you.
If you’ve got time to breath, are you really a valuable asset to the team?