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Raspberry Pi's were amazing when they were like $30.... cheap enough to be accessible to most people and you could do a lot with them. I still have an older Pi that runs pihole.
Now that it's $300, there are a lot of other options out there. I find it hard to recommend a Pi anymore.
That isn't really fair. After all raw sewage can be used to create fertilizer and the output of the slop machines can't.
wtf is even happening
End stage capitalism.
It'll get lots worse before it gets better.
We are in the early stages of post capitalism. Capitalism has finished, the major players have won and there won't be any new major players emerging. Post capitalism is where economic systems no longer operate under traditional capitalist principles. It's about the shift away from labour being the foundation of wealth.
Read up on it, the world is quite clearly transitioning
The old world is dying.
The new world struggles to be born.
Now is the time of enshittification.
"and what rough beast, it's hour come at last, slouches towards Mara Lago to shoot itself out of a leathery, Botox injected cunt to be born."
It's far from dying while people still believe in it's myths
I miss when technology would get cheaper and better.
They are at war against ownership (not raspberry pi org, but the general oligarchy). It's the next step coming after "every software is a cloud service subscription". We are heading towards the "you can't own a computer, just rent one from the cloud". In this day and age, computers are necessary, for everything, for education, public services, employment, entertainment. Once we have to pay taxes to the Lords in order to have access to our mean of substance, we are essentially in a new era of feudalism.
One could call it "technofeudalism".
That's exactly where this is headed. Modern day slavery. They take away the usability of offline devices so we only use their devices to use their apps and work for their companies, and anyone trying to circumvent this (VPNs, refusing Age Verification, Piracy, FOSS) gets visited by the technofeudalists' friends at ICEstapo.
yeah it's the "war on computation" that's the other term Cory Doctorow coined apart from "enshitification"
The end goal is to destroy all consumer available general purpose computing.
I hope one of the effects will be that people stop building 5gb websites and apps on some weird js framework to show a tweet or sth. Efficiency is one of the things we can improve
We went from cheap hobby computer to luxury item with emotional damage real quick 💀
$270 of the price is for the RAM.
To be fair, who needs 16GB of RAM on a Pi? The hell are you running on it that needs that? Are you trying to use it as a desktop?
Considering the 3 only had 2GB of ram, and the 4 only had 4GB of ram for the longest time, it's probably better to compare the 8GB model. Which is still $135.
Even the 1GB model is $50. Fucking ridiculous.
I have the 8 GB one.
I agree the 16 GB one is useless (especially how weak it is,I would rather buy a Optiplex or Thinkpad for that price with 16gb ram)
Are you trying to use it as a desktop?
Why not. It has enough power. But you can easily consume all that RAM if you run Minecraft server, or crypto software
Pis have been overpriced for a long time now. They're often just expensive or more expensive than a mini pc. And the mini pc's are nearly as power efficient while being much more capable.
There's also the clones. If the community as a whole would stop being so brand-loyal and started reaching out into the world of these tiny computers that's often better, but at half the price, the Raspberry Pie would die an ugly death.
I still use raspberry pies. One for Klipper, one as a NAS and a few older models for testing. I'm satisfied with the Pi 4 2GB models. What alternatives are there that are at least as good?
I'm considering looking for old laptops with broken screens.
Suggested ebay search:
off lease thin client lot.
I'm not in the scene, but my SO has lots of them and only two of them are Raspberry. He has/had Orange Pie, Banana Pie, Nano Pie and many others.
No more cheap portable control stations for DIY projects for now. 😢
That's what you get for trying to have fun instead of gaining value for shareholders.
This was part of the plan all along. They're taking power directly from our hands in every way possible.
I didn't believe it, i mean they were pricey as hell but this is taking the biscuit now 😞
I feel pretty mixed about this to be honest. I haven't bought a Pi in a long time but from what I can see the 5 is pretty clever. It's expensive but RAM is insanely expensive right now. 16GB of RAM alone is expensive. That same RAM jump would cost thousands from Apple.
Meanwhile, the Pi 3 is still on sale for around £30, and the Pi Zero for closer to £10. If you genuinely want something for embedded systems or running scripts the older models are still fantastic for that. The Pi 5 is a viable desktop computer and just in a different category IMO.
The only thing i don't like about the pi, is no x86. For a desktop i would much prefer x86 architecture.
So i am more looking for a low powered x86 home server as a secondary one.
Good news is that micro controllers and used office PCs are still fairly affordable by comparison... for now.
I read a headline yesterday that said the rpi price increase was "eye watering". I believe that's called journalistic understatement.
