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[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 81 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hahaha this is cartoonishly evil, surely it can't be true!

Next you'll tell me Ellison invests in creepy life extension projects and gives an insane amount of money to post-fascist politicians!

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

Don't forget the support for genocide.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think we all know it actually stands for One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be honest, until now I always thought it was because of Oracles.

[–] ghostahh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Wind gusts are crazy today the way jokes are flying over heads

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, that answers the question "when did oracle become so evil?"

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

Yeah, from the beginning

[–] xep@discuss.online 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The worst DB in existence, not to defend Oracle, is blockchain.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Blockchain isn't a Database, and the worst one is AS400.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A400 is at least relational.

MongoDB on the other hand...

All data is, or will become, relational.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am a big SQL fan but not all data has to be relational.

Let’s say I want the GPS coordinates of ten million vehicles every 5 seconds. I have a vehicle id, a timestamp, and coordinates. I do not care if a few writes get lost. Why does this have to be relational?

And perhaps I also record other info that may change from vehicle to vehicle. Perhaps just values that are true if present. DoorOpen, BrakeApplied, LightsOn, LightBarOn, EngineOn, etc. I may only be displaying this data in a UI. I may get different values from every vehicle or even every write. There is no “schema”. I mean, I can have a JSON field or something in my relational table? But this is not exactly relational anymore.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Correct not all data has to be relational but it will always eventually become relational. You will at one point want to pair that vehicle id to a vehicle and then again to something else.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

y'all wrong, the worst database in existence is wherever I keep my notes. because every time I write notes I forget where the fuck I wrote them.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Isn't it how all the databases work? Or maybe you should just enable cache for yours.

can't cache my notes because I forgot where I put my notebook

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Based on what? It’s top notch for immutability, zero trust, proof of existence, accountability, transparency, uptime, decentralization, network resilience…

[–] chaospatterns@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What about throughput, latency, schema modeling, query load balancing/routing, confidentiality, regulatory compliance, operational tooling? How easily can I write a CRUD or line of business service using it?

Also blockchain is append only. So no deletions.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Confidentiality, regulatory compliance, schema modeling (IDLs?), query load balancing (rpc infra) and operational tooling pretty good in my world now (Solana). Throughout and latency decent now (400ms conf, couple second finality, 4k tps) but obviously the type of system that needs a trustless immutable database has tradeoffs.

How easily can you write a crud system? No clue that’s on you. A line of business service? Why the hell would that need a trustless immutable ledger. You’re barking up the wrong tree. Low level financial systems are pretty much the only thing that benefits. Small niche for proof of existence perhaps. And maybe other immutable use case things.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oracle is not the worse DB in existence. They are a worse company than MS, but I'd much rather be talking to Oracle than MSSQL.

(My go-to is PostgreSQL, tho.)

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

MSSQLMS is goat tho

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Had to know Kai was going to show up.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am forced to use Oracle at work. It is, in fact, hot garbage.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What makes it garbage? Compared to postgres

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, just getting to the interface where I can run SQL is a pain in the ass. It’s hidden behind Oracle’s terrible UI.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"intelligence" <---> incompetence

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno about that. The CIA has at least been competent at undermining leftist movements.

[–] ZomieChicken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are they? It's a known fact that they do that kind of thing. If they were good, wouldn't their involvement not appear, or would be, at best, a rumor?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

We usually only find out years after the fact when the information is declassified. Also, secrecy is only necessary to the extent that it helps reach objectives. Knowing the CIA infiltrates leftist movements undercuts hope and increases distrust between leftists.

[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Hate to be the Devils advocate here, but Oracle is the only one (as far as i know) which provides a FREE usable server. FOREVER. Via OracleCloud

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Until it randomly gets removed without warning

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 9 points 1 month ago

As far as i know, yes. Forever. Only 1 cloud provider that gives free usable server FOREVER (until they eventually change their policy or something)

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Promise free cloud forever. Randomly delete it without recourse once people come to depend on it.

Check: sounds pretty evil.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 7 points 1 month ago

Mmm saas is not forever nor are loss leaders.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They like to randomly delete them. It happened to me and a friend.

[–] xcaliber47@europe.pub 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can start the server again manually right? Because i am about to go for Oracle free forever server ( It is a Analytics server so i dont mind them deleting the entire server sometimes. And me manually starting it back up as soon as they do that. Also we have auto backup I just want a free server

Will it work?

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately deleted means deleted. Data gone.

My recommendation is to use it as a reverse proxy to expose services but ultimately host from another device.

It's 1 gb of ram anyway (the free 24 gb of ram arm vps' are scarce and hard to get).

Another tip is that they monitor cpu and ram and are more likely to delete it if is idling. There exist programs on github that do nothing but waste cpu in order to try to keep the oracle vps up.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

And as usual from Oracle, it isn't worth free. You better have a good backup, because they'll shut that shit off on you without warning.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

The name Oracle comes from the codename of a Central Intelligence Agency-funded project Ellison had worked on while formally employed by Ampex.

Nonsense, everyone knows Oracle is an acronym: One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison.

[–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

I think MSSQL is worse than MySQL (or at least MariaDB)

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

The DoD funded a lot of the early development of relational databases, along with internet protocol. Working for the cia was probably the least of ellisons sins. Really bad company, but solid DB.