My electric rate got hiked again.
I'm already planning a ~7 KW solar setup in the spring but I may see if I can go bigger and sooner.
oh man, it would be amazing to be completely off grid in the middle of a city. lol
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AI data centers aren't going up in the middle of cities...
idgaf about datacenters. I just think it would be amazing to disconnect from the electrical grid and give them the finger in the middle of a city
Am offgrid, not in a city but not entirely fucking nowhere either. In the middle ground. Can confirm it feels good. Especially during storms when i can tell others power went out
i'm semi-middle ground too. not off grid, just got a generator. gotta tell you, it's pretty nice not losing the contents of my fridge anymore
Why would you ever disconnect from the grid though? You can sell your power back and you can buy power as a backup if you just stay connected to it.
Because that increases the cost exponentially. As soon as you do grid connected with sellback there is a huge amount of red tape and the power company has to be involved then Blueprints and only approved installers can do the work.
Offgrid self consumption you can just do yourself. I spent roughly $20,000 on my stuff. But that got me a full pallet of 30 panels, 30 kWh of battery, 16,000 watts of inverter output.
For $20,000 most solar installers won't even talk to you, at best they'll give you like a small handful of panels and an inverter with no batteries. For a setup similar to mine you'd be looking at like minimum of $90,000 for grid tied from an installer. It just doesn't make financial sense.
It's honestly criminal the upcharge that solar installers take. It's not even difficult work the NEC is freely available to all and while it is a lot of reading it's less than a Harry Potter novel I was able to get through it all get my installation done and then had a master electrician come out and inspect it. Passed, it's just about making sure you use the correct gauge of wire, make sure everything is spaced how it should be, make sure you have Breakers and disconnects in the correct places. Definitely not worthy of the ridiculous amount of money solar installers are charging
Oh wow, that sucks. Unfortunate that policy seems to incentivize such an individualistic and fragmented approach. Thanks for explaining though.
I believe power companies here would gladly install the necessary hardware to buy your power. Maybe the demand for green energy is higher, or the lack of freestanding homes might play a role as well.
because I can
- not care
- sell it to my neighbours
- I don't help corporations/companies that have been actively working harder and harder to screw me over... even for a pittance of kickback. screw em
Good job not caring, proud of you.
They actually are. Musk is currently poisoning black kids in Memphis with a combo of data centers and hydrocarbon burning power sources (of questionable legality).
They aren't going into affluent areas of big cities.
i thought we're talking about dale
They are in Australia. However home solar + battery adoption is also quite high and there are people who are effectively off-grid in the city as they supply a net surplus back to the grid.
"AI is asinine, I tell ya hwat."
Dale strikes me as a very anti-AI kinda guy.
He'd be against giant corporate owned AI, while having his own local model loaded with wild-ass conspiracy theories driving him even crazier.
This sounds about right.
The meme is on a different sheet than the character.
Your electric bill is going up because "ai" users are generating child pornography.
The models themselves don't take that much to run. Maybe 10wh per picture generated strictly not including all the other infrastructure. Training takes a fuck long amount of Matrix stuff.
it's not just the models, it's the output.
What
THE CHILD PORN YOU DENSE TWAT
fuck do you need it spelled out in crayons?
We are talking about the power usage, not thr data that is coming out of it.
why ignore either issue?
the power issue is a real fucking issue, stop acting like it's not.
Yea dude we get it but the post is about the power usage and bills passed onto consumers
And fuck me, if some CP enjoyer is kept away from real children, in his basement, because he can just look at CP slop, I'm all for it. Unethical but at least they're away from our kids.... For a while at least until they stop liking the slop... Okay that may be more enabling than preventative... Idk
both are issues, why ignore either?
Just got the news today that my electric rates are going up 12%. This follows multiple above inflation rate hikes in recent years. We used to have cheap electricity. I'm sure that wider adoption of EVs and the push to switch from natural gas in the home to electric everything is a big contributing factor. I'm also sure data centers are a big contributing factor.
It will, and you can’t stop it. Zucc needs his volts for his AI, just like Altman and that google prick.
Probably better to invest in batteries tha make it bigger?
Or because people from California will not stop moving here.