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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40834339

Just pick one - All the Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf - https://librewolf.net/

Waterfox - https://www.waterfox.com/

Zen Browser - https://zen-browser.app/

More browsers here - https://alternativeto.net/category/browsers/firefox-based/

You can also use this add to disable the ~~shitload~~ ai function in many search engines in one go

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-ai/

GitHub page - https://github.com/jruns/disable-ai

You can find all the links on Mastodon<

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[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I keep reading posts like this, but as a daily Firefox user, I wonder where you encounter AI there? Apart from these posts, I haven't noticed anything at all so far. What does AI do in Firefox? And what's the problem with it?

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

In truth, people have a visceral reaction because the world is trending in a way they don't like, and it has the unfortunate effect that companies that do what these people like the most, or more than other companies, end up the most punished because those people are the most likely to give backlash. This results in them losing and things being even worse.

Right now there are barely any AI integrations in Firefox, so people are just kneejerk overreacting. At worse they have a feature you have to try to hit where you can have the AI LLM provider of choice summarize a page for you and that type of thing.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago

For me, I see it I the sidebar on regular ff but I disable it every time.

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

To add to the point about AI in search engines, arguably it would be better to just stop using those search engines and inflating their demand at all. This not only removes the need for yet-another-add-on, but it reduces the uniqueness of your browser fingerprint. Remember, the more add-ons and changes you make to your browser, the more unique you are to the world when browsing.

And no, DDG is not a friend. Besides having their own LLM-bot, they also still have microsoft ads fuckery going on.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nice tip. I'll check some of these search engine for sure 👌.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair to DDG, you can permanently disable all ads and AI in their settings, or use a URL parameter to disable them in private browsing. They also block any embedded trackers in the ads they serve. Still not great, but leagues better than Google or Bing

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Still, their copy at that link uses the wording, "partnered with Microsoft", and that doesn't sit well with me at all when they go on to mention, "relevant advertising." My personal trust level in them has vanished entirely.

I just want a search engine to search, fuck off with ads of any kind, relevant or not. There are plenty of other options that do exactly this, so why settle for a slightly more diluted poison when I could just drink water.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Name some! Don't leave us hanging!

[–] phaedrus@piefed.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I literally gave a list in the first comment of this thread...

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

And no, DDG is not a friend. Besides having their own LLM-bot, they also still have microsoft ads fuckery going on.

At some point with this level of purity testing, you will just be hurting yourself, and making the people around you annoyed though.

You basically want companies to exist while not being profitable for idealistic reasons.

You'll say you don't of course, but the collection of people like you all have similar but different enough red flags that the end result is that you who care idealistically end up having basically 0 effect on the market except making any company that tries to appeal to you walk on egg shells to the point they fail or give up and go for a broader audience.

I mean, I personally wouldn't mind paying 50 bucks a year for a proper open source, well maintained browser, but that will never happen because the type of person like me, also is probably pretty nitpicky, and tends to have ridiculous things they consider as red flags even if they could just ignore a feature or disable it, and that would mean there is no common paid browser possible.

We are then back to there being free browsers that have many reasons to be hated but that the common person is fine enough with.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I went with Floorp awhile back, in part because of the dumb name.

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I installed the Disable AI extension, but I can still see the AI Search on Ecosia :/

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're right, just tested. Post the issue here.

https://github.com/jruns/disable-ai/issues

Ecosia We disable Ecosia's AI Overview by blocking the AI Overview data request to their API. We also hide the AI Chat tab under the search bar.

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago

I don't really want to register on GitHub. I'd do it on Codeberg if the code were on Codeberg, but it's only on GitHub.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can turn off AI overviews in Ecosia's settings, and uBlock Origin's element picker can block the AI search button.

Alternatively, DuckDuckGo lets you entirely disable everything AI and even block search results that are known to be AI-generated. Pretty much the main reason I still use it

[–] Dequei@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where? image

Probably I am going to switch to another search engine, like the ones phaedrus@piefed.world said.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's incredibly odd...it's right there for me

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[–] Dequei@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have an ecosia account? I am not logged in.

[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

No, I am not logged in either - maybe it's an A/B testing thing?

[–] mozafaree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

These really look like better alternatives to AI bloat in browsers