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Video shared on social media shows a Waymo driving through a red light and into an active police standoff in downtown Los Angeles.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 94 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I wish those dumb driverless cars disrupted ICE raids instead...

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 39 points 3 weeks ago

That could probably be arranged...

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Google owns waymo, they're likely to drive suspected brown people to the ICE detentions centers without warning than disrupt them.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, someone in the US probably could get a waymo, make it drive to an area near one, and then go "oopsie", provided they are white and normal-looking enough.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 94 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

How tf do you get to the ‘put an autonomous vehicle on the road’ stage without ever considering police directions to a driver, or basic safety around first responders??

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 3 weeks ago

Move fast and break stuff literally.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ve always said that edge cases will continue to plague “AI” things like self driving cars until true AGI exists. In the decades I’ve been driving I’ve seen all manner of edge cases that neither Waymo nor any other self driving car would handle properly.

One example I like to use is when I stopped at a red light next to a construction site. I was watching the red light and didn’t see a cop next to the construction zone who was waving me through the red light. He eventually took a few steps towards my car and yelled to get my attention, after which I drove through the red light.

For a self driving car to respond in a situation like that it would need to recognize the cop as an authority figure and not just a pedestrian that is overriding the red light you stopped at.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See the answer is to remove the edge cases. We make a special road for only self driving cars. No human traffic lights, no pedestrians, just flawless roads. While we're at it let's make a special road that the cars couldn't fall off of if they tried. That will make lane keeping trivial so the cars just need to go straight. We can even make the special road steer for them. Actually since they're all going the same way we can tie them all together so we only need one engine and can save money hehehe. We'll make self driving so easy bro.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

i am aware of the sarcasm and i support trains, but they do suffer from the 'last mile' issue. I cannot easily make to the nearest metro station without driving there. I commute on the DC beltway - its a horrific superhighway that goes to like 5 lanes on either side at some points. I have daydreamed about a kind of track in the center line where cars could drive on to a 'rail' and somehow get off the rail at the right point. I dont know how the tech would work (clearly) but something where personal vehicles can linkup on a shared rail line could be interesting.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I've been saying this for over a decade and it's served me well.

Its even worse with LLMs, at least an autonomous vehicle has a set functionality, but people are using LLMs to solve all sorts a problems.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

Shareholders

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Lemme check . . . uhhhhh . . .

Yep. Here it is. Money.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine if they were in an active shootout, that thing just goes driving through the middle.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And then it just keeps driving with a corpse in it 😬

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

And charges them extra for not exiting the cab at the destination.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 weeks ago

Tech bros are some of the stupidest people on earth. Hubris plus money is a bad combination.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

They're supposed to be able to detect emergency lights and take action to avoid or stop. But they're also supposed to stop at red lights...

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Erm. Didn't Waymo just decide to chill out a bit with their cars safety?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, they're no longer deferring to other drivers and generally taking more risks

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

lmao

When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities.”

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao

Food companies be like "When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving edibility and not poisoning our consumers."

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's pretty much how it's going in that industry too

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Want lead candy mister?

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Classic lipservice

It's lucky it is white.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 weeks ago

ACAB: Autonomous Cars are Bulldozing

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 21 points 2 weeks ago

That's not a fucking standoff wtf. That's some dude laying flat on the ground as a bunch of heavily arm thugs bark orders at him, threatening him with lethal violence if he doesn't lay on the ground like a dog.

Jesus futurism, wtf is this narrative

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

In response to the incident, a company spokesperson told NBC that “safety is our highest priority at Waymo"

In all the recent stories about Waymos cruising right on past stopped school buses that have their stop sign out, lights flashing, and kids crossing, they said the same thing. They also stated that Waymos "will not be taken off the streets for now." That's even though it's still happening even after they updated the software and thought they'd fixed it.

My first thought was, Why the hell do they get to say whether or not their Waymos will be taken off the streets?! Why aren't they being told to get the damn things off the streets until they've proved this won't happen again? Have we all just completely rolled over for the oligarchs to the point where we just let them do anything they want even after they've killed animals and nearly killed schoolchildren? (that's a rhetorical question of course).

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

Someday: “Our officers, in fear for their lives, had no choice but to fire upon the approaching Waymo when it refused to obey their orders to stop. We regret the unfortunate collateral damage inflicted to the passengers, which was unavoidable.”

[–] pez@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

drove through a red light

just feet away from the driver, who was lying face down on the asphalt

Neither of these statements in the article are correct. The video shows the light turning red after the car goes through the intersection and has a cut in the video before showing the driver of the white SUV get out and lay down.

Watching on mute it just looks like the road is closed and turning left/right would be the right move...

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In the video, officers can be heard yelling at the Waymo to clear the area. Instead it did the exact opposite, slowing to a crawl and trying to sidle up to the curb, right near where the suspect was being held at gunpoint.

“Go to your left! Go to your left!” an officer can be heard yelling as the driverless cab throws its right-side blinker on. Of course, the Waymo doesn’t respond to outside verbal commands.
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a company spokesperson told NBC that... "When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities.”

I hope their takeaway isn't to let thugs barking orders at cars dictate what the car should do.

I appreciate that the car understood not to follow the demands of some uniformed gangster standing in the road with a gun pointed at some dude on the ground.

I wish people would be as anarchist as this car. Fuck the police

[–] owsei@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What? No! What if it had a person?

I hate cops too, but having a driverless vehicle driving into a shooting is bad

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, hopefully the company's actions will be to open the doors, tell the passengers to get out, and then run over the police, open the doors, and tell the poor guy on the street:

get in if you want to live!

Then speed away

[–] owsei@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool outcome, but massively difficult for a car that can't even wait a red light

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

Needs more piggy-detection training

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Waymo paying tribute to the 20th anniversary of Leeroy Jenkins

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I imagine that the criminal summoned it as a last chance to escape.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well it could be worst. Imagine it drive right through a gang war or maybe right into a giant sinkhole that just opened.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago

The cops were “stunned”? Really? This is pretty normal for autonomous cars. Had they all stepped through a time portal from 2010?

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 weeks ago

Translation: Cops pissed off that a robot car doesn't think they're the main character.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago

Choose all the squares where a cop isn't laying low to the ground...

Blue bag of chips, t-shirt on the ground, fuzzy blue ink on road, blue squirrel, rubble pile of blue stuff. All perfectly fine items.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh come on guys let’s not be too negative.

Maybe it was trying to get the guy out of a jam.

Mandatory /s

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I like the future where we can call self driving getaway cars to rescue us from a bunch of heavily armed, uniformed thugs threatening to kill us