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Video shared on social media shows a Waymo driving through a red light and into an active police standoff in downtown Los Angeles.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 94 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

How tf do you get to the ‘put an autonomous vehicle on the road’ stage without ever considering police directions to a driver, or basic safety around first responders??

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 3 weeks ago

Move fast and break stuff literally.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ve always said that edge cases will continue to plague “AI” things like self driving cars until true AGI exists. In the decades I’ve been driving I’ve seen all manner of edge cases that neither Waymo nor any other self driving car would handle properly.

One example I like to use is when I stopped at a red light next to a construction site. I was watching the red light and didn’t see a cop next to the construction zone who was waving me through the red light. He eventually took a few steps towards my car and yelled to get my attention, after which I drove through the red light.

For a self driving car to respond in a situation like that it would need to recognize the cop as an authority figure and not just a pedestrian that is overriding the red light you stopped at.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

See the answer is to remove the edge cases. We make a special road for only self driving cars. No human traffic lights, no pedestrians, just flawless roads. While we're at it let's make a special road that the cars couldn't fall off of if they tried. That will make lane keeping trivial so the cars just need to go straight. We can even make the special road steer for them. Actually since they're all going the same way we can tie them all together so we only need one engine and can save money hehehe. We'll make self driving so easy bro.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

i am aware of the sarcasm and i support trains, but they do suffer from the 'last mile' issue. I cannot easily make to the nearest metro station without driving there. I commute on the DC beltway - its a horrific superhighway that goes to like 5 lanes on either side at some points. I have daydreamed about a kind of track in the center line where cars could drive on to a 'rail' and somehow get off the rail at the right point. I dont know how the tech would work (clearly) but something where personal vehicles can linkup on a shared rail line could be interesting.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I've been saying this for over a decade and it's served me well.

Its even worse with LLMs, at least an autonomous vehicle has a set functionality, but people are using LLMs to solve all sorts a problems.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Lemme check . . . uhhhhh . . .

Yep. Here it is. Money.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine if they were in an active shootout, that thing just goes driving through the middle.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And then it just keeps driving with a corpse in it 😬

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 3 weeks ago

And charges them extra for not exiting the cab at the destination.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 weeks ago

Tech bros are some of the stupidest people on earth. Hubris plus money is a bad combination.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

They're supposed to be able to detect emergency lights and take action to avoid or stop. But they're also supposed to stop at red lights...

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Erm. Didn't Waymo just decide to chill out a bit with their cars safety?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, they're no longer deferring to other drivers and generally taking more risks