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Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has once again called for longer working weeks has returned, this time with an emphasis on schedules like the 996-pattern used in parts of China.

Murthy's comments revive a debate which began in 2024, when he argued that Indian employees should work 70 hours a week.

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 230 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh fuck off, asshole... you need to be thrown in prison.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He needs to take a long walk, on a short pier.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Into the warm embrace of a hungry octopus...

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 172 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

There is a large body of research out there regarding 12h shift work in healthcare. I’m only linking 1 article, a quick search will yield more, easily.

A TLDR on it: 12h shifts decrease performance. Stacking them decreases safety and performance, cumulatively. Car accidents pick up significantly on day 4.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4629843/

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 112 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It’s utter madness that healthcare professionals are allowed to work (in many countries) longer than truck drivers. It’s even more ridiculous that many countries have a medical doctor internship program that is designed by an absolute cocaine fiend assigning 30 hour days - and see nothing wrong with it.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Capitalism protects the capital (goods, and equipment, on a truck), and values human lives at approx $3 million (based on financial cost for the company when a life is lost).

The value of the truck and the contents of the trailer are frequently greater than the value of the driver for a given trip, and therefore justify more caution and care than any given patient in a doctor's office.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 133 points 1 month ago

“You worked really hard this year. 60 hour weeks. Impressive but you can do more. See that rolls Royce in the parking lot? If you work 80 hour weeks next year and everything works out, I’ll be able to buy a second one.”

[–] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He doesn't work that hard, so why the fuck should we?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 month ago

He probably thinks he works 80 hour weeks because he is including schmoozing with clients and company paid lunches and dinners as "work"

[–] throws_lemy@reddthat.com 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"This is nothing. When I was young, I worked 80 hours a week", Murthy probably

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

These are the little fuckwits that pretend waiting on a phone call back from someone is hard work. They have no concept of what real work is like; their "work" is just their ordinary greasy life made to benefit a shareholder in addition to themselves.

Oh, you want me to go play golf with this guy using the company card and then go for dinner and drinks? Do some soft sales, just having regular conversation? Sure, I'll take that "work". Man, it's tough. Nobody works 80 hour weeks like me.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Crunching does not work!

Instead, it reduces productivity to a fraction (often 10% of normal), countering any time added.

You want to improve your productivity, you make your workers happy. Make sure they can eat, have good healthcare, have adequate family life, etc.

We now have studies that counter the crunching myths and time theft myths.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 73 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok I'll do 70 hour weeks as long as it promises I am also a billionaire by retirement. So that'll be a salary of 21 million a year please.

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Exactly, I'll work my ass off for a year or two, but then I'm out

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You won’t be out when your rent is a million per month and groceries are 100k.

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So 6 days of 12-hour shifts? Sounds like a pretty novel way to tank your economy because no one’ll have the time to spend money or raise a family.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 month ago

“Why aren’t the proles making babies? I specifically requested it!”

Absolutely! The short sighted idiocy of this really points out the corporate thinking only about the next Q. This would get maybe a month before the economic crash

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Japan has a habit of doing this. The birth rate cratered, productivity is not that great and economic growth is famously low. Most workers do a form of performance theater, an actual "we pretend to work".

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago

So stupid. Wasting potential personal time for such theatrics.
They should take inspiration from my coworkers, who don't even bother to pretend.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

can someone kidnap this motherfucker and make him work normal labor job for 80 hours a week, for a year, and see how much he likes this stupid fucking pants on head idea after that

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The pampered idiots that suggest these things would literally not survive a year of actual work at 40 hours let alone what they propose

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 month ago (7 children)
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[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago

He should work himself to death alone and leave us with a better world

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fuck that! We should be aiming for 21-28 hours being the normal length of the employed week for everyone everywhere, and it not being necessary to work any more than that unless you want to for yourself. We can't accelerate forever, we need to do less work hours and have good quality of life, otherwise what's even the point of technology?

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I do not understand his logic.

Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

Someone working 70 hours is a mindless drone. This is how you get 13" iPads accidentally sold for 15€ "because the computer said so" (happened in a big box retailer in my country, no human involved in the process objected the price until WEEKS after the sale, when accounting noticed it, and they had to beg customers "pwease return our €1000 iPads and we give you a €25 gift card as a token of gratitude" and everyone just laughed about that)

Especially for developers, for the same price is better to get two that can do tasks with full attention rather than a single one that after 12 hours of job is just mindlessly clicking on "accept" on whatever a LLM is spitting out or half assing solutions because don't have the right state of mind to think for a proper one.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)

What he wants is to pay one person for 70hrs, the same as he'd pay one person for 35 hrs.

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[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you follow the standard 5 day business week, that is 70 hours worked for every 50 hours not worked. Account for 8 hours of sleep a night and you have 2 hours a day to commute to your job. Literally zero time for any other needs. And that's ONLY if you are generous enough to give everyone the weekend to recharge.

For a 7 day work week with no days off, allowing for 8 hours of sleep per day and 2 hours of commute time, that is 4 hours a day to do anything else. I also would assume that part of the day would still be considered off hours for lunch. As well. Call it 3 hours a day for anything not work related.

This man should be hanged for even suggesting this as a reasonable productivity schedule for any living being.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 44 points 1 month ago

"Infosys co-founder suggested slavery could be brought back with updated terms and conditions"

This is how this news should be titled

[–] palmtrees2309@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

MoFo wants 80 hour work week and pays 4,353 USD per year to Indian CS graduates.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Shit like this should be shown to people who argue against unionization.

Remember, the parasites will take everything they can, even if it means their eventual demise.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

The sooner we start eating these motherfuckers the faster things will improve.

Billionaire is a mental illness that isn't compatible with civil society,

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi

Overwork people until they die/kill themselves, great idea, what could go wrong. Really, I want to see homeboy do a month of whatever his lowest employee does with that schedule and THEN say he's still for it. Bet he'll be real fuckin' quiet.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

CEO: has lunch and answers a phone call. “I’m working!” Writes a proposal from a yacht “I’m working!” Goes golfing with industry buddies. “I’m working!” Paid tens of millions not including stock options. Spends time in the c-suite. Actually is working. Writes a letter about his cubicle slaves who are chained to their cubicle at work, their phone at home, unable to actually use PTO due to fear of negative performance reviews, working 50+ hours on the clock and uncounted hours off the clock “You need to work more!!” With their pay and benefits constantly under assault by managers.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Put his ass out there in the field for 70 hrs and see if he keeps preaching it

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[–] Rhyfel@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We don't eat enough billionaires

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[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I am not an advocate of slavery generally speaking but I do think that it is a just and righteous thing to enslave someone like this and to use them for backbreaking labour for 20 hours per day.

Like. Make it pointless too. Dig this hole. Fill that hole. Dig it again.

Feed them stuff you find in dumpsters. Beat them if their hole digging is going to slow. Test cosmetics on them. Sell them to be used for sex.

That seems right to me.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I don't understand why these assholes insist on people working more hours. What's the difference to them between 1 person working 70 hours a week or 2 people working a combined total of 70 hours if they're both paid the same hourly rate?

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 month ago

if they're both paid the same hourly rate?

That's the fun part: you only have to pay them for 40 hours!

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some billionaires are saying shorter work weeks be used of AI, some are saying longer.

If this just a way for us to be “grateful” for things to remain the same?

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Good luck finding talent, dickhead

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

Revive a debate? Really? In that case, I’m reviving the debate for redistributing Murthy’s net wealth to all citizens as UBI.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Go fuck yourself, parasite. Signed, the world.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Only if he works 120 hours per week and takes a 99% pay cut.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How long until a CEO openly argues for slavery?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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