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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I've lived on the internet before youtube, I can go back. I've even noticed I've been forcing myself to check out whats on youtube more and more over the past 5 years instead of wanting to check it out. So I kinda feel like I can drop it as a website I visit on its own and only consume it when specific posts link to it (like from lemmy). Next step after that is dropping it completely as video creators naturally move to different hosts.

Every company want to be a platform.. I just them to host videos I can watch embedded on lemmy or some other site.

Obligatory message from Invidious gang

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My account is old enough to drink in most of the world. They better not try and age verify me lol.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world -4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The article says they take the age of your account into factor. You should read it.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I just don't believe them. They will find a way to screw it up with AI, the same way they've screwed up youtube moderation.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The article also states that this system of age verification is already in place. Have you been asked to provide ID yet? No? Then you're fine.

Again, you should read the article.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 6 points 7 hours ago

YouTube uses a pretty wide variety of signals from across your Google account, including the age of your account, the types of searches you’re making, the types of videos you’re watching, and which apps you’ve downloaded, to make this estimation.

Account age is one factor that will be considered. Who's to say their AI won't screw up weights for the other factors and decide that someone is a child because they primarily let their kids use their account (bad practice, but not unheard of from stressed parents)? What happens when you aren't a youtuber with an audience that can get the attention of actual human beings?

Google has already made AI-related errors with moderating youtube. I will trust what they say after it's been proven.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/youtube-denies-ai-was-involved-with-odd-removals-of-tech-tutorials/

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 4 points 7 hours ago

Same with blue sky. They hit me up with an age check.

Never looked back.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just curious why is this entire thing even in the Android community? This is a privacy topic or a YouTube topic etc. There's nothing about it that ties it to Android. Can we keep stuff like this out? It's just one more topic that devolves into politics, scare speculation etc. Just read the comment threads if you need to see.

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly. People needs to know Android is not Google

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Hard to escape Google unless you are willing to use a custom rom which is getting harder and harder to do with devices with unlockable bootloaders becoming rarer. Google also has a pretty big influence on the direction of Android.

Even GrapheneOS that is talked of often requires purchase of a Google phone.

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I myself have degoogled android device without bootloader locked. I have multiple devices with stock and custom ROM. With adb or other GUI tools you can go 95% degoogled without causing any breakage

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But, it not being 100% does show how Google is not Android is hard to make a reality for locked bootloaders and the influence it also can have on unlocked phones.

A phone having an unlockable bootloader doesn't guarantee being able to flash a custom rom from one of the more trusted groups.

Sometimes it means having to rely on the work of one unknown person trying to port it over for the device, and not knowing if they snuck anything malicious.

Its just a really poor situation compared to desktop OS options that makes it hard to degoogle and also be secure. Since being more private from data collection and being secure can be different things. Right GrapheneOS is one of the few options that tries to offer both privacy without comprising on security.

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Situation on mobile devices is worse than people think. These vendors are locking devices more everyday. We seriously need more than 2 mobile OS. Linux phone's future is still unclear

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Indeed mobile is so terrible. Hardware options terrible and at the mercy of OEMs and hacked together fan projects still reliant on Google contributions to Android, and available only on limited OEM phones. Which if an OEM decides to lock things down not like we can make our own phones like desktops.

We need linux phones but that is unlikely. I wish Valve running ARM for steam frame leads to them maybe in the future deciding to put on a Steam phone that runs Linux. But that's a long shot and probably territory they dont want to enter dealing with mobile carriers.

Maybe it's my preference of using older mid-range devices but unlocking the bootloader has been fine, the problem is some banking apps and inferior hardware drivers (worse wireless performance, stretched camera image, no control of flashlight brightness etc.)

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

when over half of the bug fixes and security patches come from Google, it's a Google product.

and I'm saying that as an android user from /e/OS

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

There's really ~~4~~ 5 spaces in the main internet:

  • the public corporate web (YouTube, Facebook, twitter, Reddit, etc)
  • the private corporate web (requires login to view any content, Software as a Service, Cloud Apps, etc)
  • the public web (Wikimedia, Wikia, Archive.org)
  • the indie web / small web
  • private web - inaccessible except through login or through VPN or TOR/Onion, but not corporate (media servers, email servers, darkweb, file servers)

And currently the main issue is that the corporate web is intentionally trying to strangle the other spaces on the web.

But there are some movements against it, https://indieweb.org/ and https://neocities.com/ and https://smallweb.cc/

Edit: missed one of the spaces

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] SteakSneak@retrolemmy.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Doesn't work

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[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm slowly making peace with the thought of losing the internet as it is. Maybe it'll become something broken you wade into from time to time, some sort of blinking, blabbering wasteland to scavenge valid, valuable information from and return to your oasis. Some people will stay trapped in there forever, but it's useless to try to communicate with them.

Clippy stage 2: revive many aspects of the old web

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

We can still pass flash drives around, at least until ID requirements come to file systems, ports, and peripherals.

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Guess I need to get off of GMail more urgently.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I have Tuta, it's good enough. Lots of storage for the price compared with others.

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