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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

TIL Deadpool is a sponge.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Do they regrow their body or a new body made from the same parts?

[–] rucksack@feddit.org 9 points 14 hours ago

New ship of Theseus just dropped

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago

What the fuck is Theseus doing over there?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How many animals have we ground up and put through a sieve into salt water to be this confident about it being the only animal that can do this? I need sources.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think there's nematodes that we've blended up before, but instead you get a bunch of nematodes instead of just one.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“Hey, Bob, watcha getting up to?”

“I’m just chopping up these worms.”

“… Why?”

“… sssssscience?”

“Holy shit, they’re all functioning individually!”

“Oh, thank fu- I mean, yeah, that’s what I was testing for. …Do we have any dogs?”

“…”

[–] Rezoie@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

basically tiny worms, often shorter than a few milimeters. it's the name for a whole group of different species, so some are microscopic while some can be several cm long

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean, enough that manufacturing of homogenizers is a thing. https://improbable.com/2021/05/13/shakespeare-and-the-whole-mouse-homogenizer/?amp=1

The ad features the comforting headline: “Only the Polytron reduces an entire mouse to a soup-like homogenate in 30 seconds”

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is this the biologist's equivalent of "assume a flat, frictionless plane"

Assume A Perfectly Homogeneous Liquid Mouse

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 18 hours ago

now that’s what i call molecular biology!

I shouldn’t have asked for sources…

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm trying with a dog now, the hamster and the cat didn't work...

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago

Like Deadpool

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if you cut it in half first, would the ground up halves restore to half a sponge?

Then what if you stir the sponge powder and remove half.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So, my assumption is: separated cells with the same genetic code, or some other biomarker of "individuality" that might not technically be unique, will attach to each other given the chance.

Super quick research suggests they don't have organs or a nervous system, but do have specialized bits like flagella to move water through their pores/tunnels. The majority of the cells just ... are. Sounds more like a colony of genetically identical cells than a single multi-cellular creature (to me), but I assume biologists have much more information and reason to consider them the way they do.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So could we clone them and then grow them larger again, then once they regrow combine them into a super sponge!

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I dug around for a little bit, and it seems like the answer might be yes. Take what follows with a grain of salt, as I skimmed or read a few sources focused on different things and have done my best to reproduce a full picture.

First, some basic facts. Sponges anchor to the seabed (freshwater ones anchor to the dirt at the bottom of a lake/whatever). Sponge cells can move around each other and rearrange, part of their normal functioning, to keep water flowing through themselves efficiently for respiration and food capture.

Next, the mechanisms of reconstruction from a soup of sponge cells. As they bump into each other and recognize their own kind, sponge cells manage to hold together and hope for ground to attach to. They flatten out, presumably both to improve grip to the ground and to provide a large surface area for more cells to join. As long as the new colony ends up with enough of two specific kinds of cells (one makes connective mesohyl, the other makes everything else), it can grow.

The main thing I couldn't (quickly) find is specific confirmation that two healthy, stable colonies coming from a single halved source sponge can reattach, or if the reaggregation process only works following injury or during some kind of stress. Since the cells normally move around, though, it seems reasonable that this could work.

Based on all that and assuming their aren't other factors for sponge cells recognizing each other not entirely based on DNA, then presumably clones could also be attached.

Note that sponges don't actually stop growing. Their main limits are resource needs and predation, since some sea life likes to take nibbles or bites out of them (that's possibly a factor to why they are so adept at reorganization). So if your question involved cloning (rather than reattachment) only to get around a rough maximum size or early-life growth period that stops, it shouldn't be necessary.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give this person a grant and let them sciencify please

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I have had new ideas too, what if you combine fractions of different sponges?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago

Would have been better without the dumb AI image

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 221 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How many other animals did they put through a sieve to reach this conclusion? How many?!

[–] aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 101 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

And that's why we have a lot of shredded stuff recipes.
After they realised that the subject didn't reassemble, they then went ahead to do other tests with the shredded matter, one of which was cooking and eating them.

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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There seem to be many of these multicellular animals who don't feel like a singular individual animal. I was commenting on a post a few months ago about the most genetically simple multicellular animal, this thing has less base pairs than most bacteria, and it can also do this trick where disassociated cells recombine into new individuals. This creature also reproduce sexually if and only if the concentration of fellow individuals is high enough, cells will just leave the body and join a new one like for fun. It really calls into question what an individual is.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

I guess it makes sense that multicellularity would be more of a spectrum than a binary condition. If life evolved into it gradually, then it would make sense to find a lot of "intermediate" evolutionary states that don't feel like they're distinctly one or the other.

[–] s@piefed.world 132 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you mix up the grindings of multiple sponges, do they only recombine with their own cells?

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Excellent question!

Now on to the grinder...

[–] mech@feddit.org 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did I hear on to Grindr?
Hell yes, let's do science!

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Ooh I hope Science is cute!

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[–] hunkyburrito@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 days ago

Based on the link sent by fossilesque@mander.xyz above, it seems somewhat unlikely. The video mentions that the sponge recombines into multiple small sponges, meaning the cells don't necessarily remember the original form.

I very well could be wrong in my interpretation though

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

The real scientist here asking the real questions

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My body still repairs itself while I dissociate. Does that count?

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 12 hours ago

I find my body really struggles with basic repair when I dissociate

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Fact: Spongebob can teleport

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Ah, yes, I too read The Bikini Bottom Horror

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't caterpillars turn thier cells to mush when they turn into butterflys?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, but I don't think it works with a grinder.

However, apparently caterpillars retain memories from their caterpillar form when in butterfly form! That's pretty cool.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bro, the whole process of going from caterpillar-> goo->butterfly creeps me out.

I’m sure it is fascinating. But also, nope.

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[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They don’t completely turn to goo, structures are already there in caterpillar form. https://youtu.be/4RaCURU6A2o

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How do they know other lifeforms do not do that?

Answer me! How do they know?!

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