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A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.___

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[–] recentSlinky@lemmy.ca 103 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And the classmate got a prestigious job in tech i assume?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's on his way to a cabinet position

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 days ago

They're floating him for supreme court justice

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

He got charges pressed on him for the deepfake porn, so potentially he got a 'bad-bad' charge, as AfterPrisonShow puts it.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bullied kid who fights backs is the one to be punished. A tale as old as time

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 87 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I got suspended for defending myself against getting hit in the head with a chair when I was a kid. School policies are totally fucked. Guess they just wanted me to stand there and sustain massive head trauma? Assholes.

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I got a friday night detention for throwing one punch at a student who was attacking me. I threw that punch after descalation did not work, and as soon as I saw a teacher I signalled for help. My dad confronted the vice principle who was the one who gave me the punishment and my dad asked him what I should have done. The VP told my dad I did as I should have and as what was expected, but that the school has a zero tolerance policy so I still needed to be punished.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yep, if you're getting suspended no matter what you do, might as well go to town so that everyone else is to afraid to try again next time because of what happened to the last attacker.

Effectively, it's an enticement to escalate violence rather than try and diffuse the situation once violence starts.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We've a great phrase for that here:

"May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb"

(i.e. if you're going to be hung it doesn't matter if they call you a sheep or a lamb so press on)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

"In for a penny, in for a pound."

But yours is more on point. :)

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

“They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago Way.”

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 15 points 5 days ago

Yep. I have been suspended twice for fighting. In both cases the other person hit me first. The first time it happened I didn't even realize somebody had thrown a punch and had no time to even defend myself. The second time I did defend myself, but it literally involved pushing the person away.

In both cases the school administration did not care and my parents went up to the school to make complaints.

It's bullshit, but this is exactly the problem. Schools have zero tolerance policies to protect themselves rather than to protect students.

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When I was in school, if someone hit you over the head with a chair and you didn't fight back, you still got suspended because you were "involved" in a fight.

Because the fight itself is an inconvenience for the school. Also, they figure you probably asked for it at some point.

[–] morriscox@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I got jumped in 10th P.E. in the locker room by a bunch of guys in the class. I got in trouble for defending myself with a weapon (locker padlock) and forced to apologize to my attackers who were not punished in any way.

In 12th grade in another state, I got attacked by a bully. I happened to have on me a rusty box cutter that I almost threw away that morning because it was falling apart. For some reason, I put it in a pocket instead. When I was attacked, I remembered it and used it. I got suspended for 3 days but the bully had to get tetanus shots.

Ya many schools have taken a zero tolerance route which means you don’t really get any punishment expect for expulsion. Something like that should have been handled in a much different way.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 92 points 6 days ago

She needs a commendation, not an expulsion for god's sake.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Webre added that he does not expect to criminally charge the young girl.

“Due to the totality of the circumstances, we chose not to pursue charges on the female student,” he said.

What the fuck. Why is this is a question. Why would it even be possible to criminally charge the victim. Why are you acting like you're doing her a favor by not "pursuing charges". WHAT fucking charges would you be fucking pursuing.

I don't expect commenters to know the answers to this. I just want to emphasize how American cops hate women so fucking much that when they have a 13-year-old female victim of a sex crime they ask themselves what crimes they can charge her with.

And men wonder why women don't report.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The name of the crime would be assault. Would you like a definition? ;)

100% agree she should not be charged as I believe it's 100% justified here, but to say you don't know what they would charge her with when it's pretty clear... That said, it should be understood that when someone does something that deserves a slap or a punch or a kick, while the person might be guilty of the crime, the justification means you do not pursue it. Like the father who catches the guy messing with his kid and he kills the guy. Yes it's Murder 2 but you don't charge him if there's a decent bone in your body. You help him get the body off his property so he can tend to his child.

I also agree the focus should be on the actual crime, the guy making CP of a minor. Even if he used technology to fake it. It's still portraying a child; ergo, it's CP. The focus should be on him being placed on a sex offender registry for however many years. But, it's Louisiana so who knows. The girl would have no rights, especially if she has dark skin.

ETA: First part is meant to be funny, not argumentative. Apologies if it came across that way! Agree with you, was trying to be funny.

[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Technically it's battery if she actually made physical contact. :p

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

We won't pursue charges but she will be expelled

Welcome to the US of fucking A

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

aaaaaaand that's a production of CP charge.

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 17 points 5 days ago

It's fucking Louisiana. They'll elect the little shit Governor.

That's a conservative trait like throwing people out of windows is a Russian politician trait.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If this were my child, I would take her out for a burger and milkshake (or whatever she wanted) and buy her something nice. A toy, a game, something like that.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Cool stuff, but that doesn't fix that. She needs a new school in a different place.
She also needs financial compensations. Ideally in the 10s of thousands. Let her have that money as well, fuck it.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

How is it acceptable anywhere for someone to be expelled for hitting someone else, in a scenario like this where the cause is completely understandable and justifiable? If anything, the kid making deepfake porn should be the one expelled because that kinda thing can be legitimately life-ruining for its target. The person being expelled had every reason, right, and justification to throw hands.

I'm probably sounding like Ailurus here, but this is screwed up.

Also, isn't deepfake porn a crime in a lot of places even if it's of adults, and not of kids like in this case, which CP is already hella illegal on its own?

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Zero tolerance for physical violence: they say it's always unacceptable (exactly like that, I imagine)

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So expel the victim of a potentially life-ruining act and also a potential crime, and not the person making the deepfake porn. That makes perfect sense. /sarcasm

Really, that deepfake porn is going to do worse damage to someone who isn't even in high school yet, than a slug to the face ever will; that black-eye will heal, the reputational damage caused by someone making deepfake porn of you, not so much, and deepfake porn is a crime in a lot of places to boot.

Oh, and btw, that person was let back in on probation with that expulsion still on her record, if I were in charge of that school district, I would've expunged her record and let her back in with whatever achievements she would've had prior to expulsion fully restored, assuming that's possible, as her acts were fully justifiable IMO, and instead I would've expelled the person making and posting the deepfake porn, and potentially pressed charges if deepfake porn is illegal in a given state/province, which is an act that's far worse than slugging a person as it causes permanent damage to a person's reputation; like I said, a black-eye will heal, reputational damage caused by deepfake porn won't.

UPDATE: Charges were pressed against the guy sending the deepfake porn.

Lafourche Parish Sheriff said one student was charged with ten counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence in September.

Googled, and apparently, according to authorities, at least one boy has been charged with 10 counts under Louisiana’s law for distributing AI-generated nude images. So, yes, the school wasnt just wrong here. They were utterly incompetent. Someone, more than one someone, needs to be fired.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Remember folks, do not aim to get in fights, but if you must fight, make sure you finish it.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Getting bullied like that is harder to recover from than being hit by someone.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

AI needs a bailout bro. Too big to fail. National security. new cornerstone of our society.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago

Ah ha, OpenAI's logo is a diagram of their business model.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 27 points 6 days ago

ZeRo ToLeRaNcE

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

shouldn't that be considered child porn...?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

The incident occurred at Sixth Ward Middle School in August when the school year began. The girl’s father, Joseph Daniels, and the attorneys say the young girl endured bullying after the deepfake nude image was circulated throughout the school.

Not only child porn, but distribution of child porn too.

Not a good look there LaFourche Parish School District, or the specific school in question!

I hope she gets justice.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been hearing the argument that since it was AI, ‘it’s not real porn’. Which is the slimiest, scummiest argument I’ve seen.

The second slimiest was that the girl deserves to be punished for fighting back after NONE of the adults at school helped her.

Like, if she’d thrown hands right off she probably should have gotten a scolding, but she tried to get the adults to intervene. They’re the ones who made it clear to her that she had to handle it herself. So she did.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

She doesn't even deserve to get suspended for basically defending herself from someone making CSAM of her, let alone expelled. She was in the right and should've gotten off scott free, the guy making the CSAM is the one who should've been expelled, on top of getting bad-bad charges for it, which he did get charged for it.

[–] KiloGex@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

My daughter would not be in trouble for this, regardless of the school's reaction.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Be a hero. Murder your local pedophile.

It's not murder when it self defense or defense of others.

this is like that last south park episode

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd wallop the teachers, and the parents of that little shit for good measure.

That shit is stuck on the internet now. I'll take assault charges against child porn defending pigs.

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[–] sc2pirate@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Stay classy Louisiana...

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