this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2025
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[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 98 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Man will rather start a fight with the biggest industry of our time than finish his book.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 weeks ago

There's no benefit in him doing so. He likely makes more money working on any other project than ASOIAF and it's probably more fun for him to not have to worry about the fanbase.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's worse things he could be doing with his time.

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[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It's hard to finish something that wasn't meant to finish ;)

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[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You think AI is the biggest business of your time? 😆

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I read somewhere earlier this week that the AI bubble is valued at around $4 trillion. That might, in fact, make it the biggest business of our time.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Correct someone on their misconception... or mock them? What would an asshole do?

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[–] witheyeandclaw@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion: GRRM doesn't owe anyone shit. I would love for the series to be complete, but he knew a long time ago that he tied himself up in a knot.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And nobody has to like him for abandoning his series. He deserves all the criticism he gets.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 3 weeks ago

Does he have to finish the series?

No.

Would I vote to convict someone that Misery's him into finishing it?

Also no.

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[–] Sylra@lemmy.cafe 50 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

So, this is what I understood so far:

  • A group of authors, including George R.R. Martin, sued OpenAI in 2023. They said the company used their books without permission to train ChatGPT and that the AI can produce content too similar to their original work.

  • In October 2025, a judge ruled the lawsuit can move forward. This came after ChatGPT generated a detailed fake sequel to one of Martin's books, complete with characters and world elements closely tied to his universe. The judge said a jury could see this as copyright infringement.

  • The court has not yet decided whether OpenAI's use counts as fair use. That remains a key legal question.

  • This case is part of a bigger debate over whether AI companies can train on copyrighted books without asking or paying. In a similar case against Anthropic, a court once suggested AI training might be fair use, but the company still paid $1.5 billion to settle.

  • No final decision has been made here, and no trial date has been set.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Just forget for a second that this has anything to do with AI specifically: I wonder how it could possibly fall under fair use to grind up hundreds of thousands of pieces of copyrighted content, and then use that data to create software that you then profit from.

The question, as I see it, is if simply mashing all this intellectual property together -- and deriving a series of weights for an AI model from that -- somehow makes it not theft simply because all the content is smashed into one big pile of pink goo in which no single piece of content is recognizable.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The court, which stressed that it’s not opining on fair use, said that a jury could undoubtedly find that the output infringes on Martin’s works.

Well of course it does. Llms can only talk about what they know, they can't talk about these books if the books are part of its knowledge, similarly like how I can't talk about the books if I haven't read them. The entire point is that the LLM got the data from the books (and of course without paying) and with that, open AI and others are profiting "massively" from it without giving anything back to the author.

Llms, as they currently are, should just be prohibited, or we should abolish copyright entirely

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

You can do it! Cut their fucking balls off!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

TBF an LLM could have written the remaining books by now and it’d still be better than how the show ended up.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your favorite thing you wanted to happen has happened, Everyone lived the way you wanted them to ever-after. The End.

  • Every LLM generated story
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

Now make Cersei and Sansa kiss.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

There are hundreds of lawsuits in SDNY against OpenAI for copyright theft.

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

Go get em!

If the authors win, we win. Either these companies will have to start over from near scratch, or those authors are gonna be riiiiich

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I hate his books, but this, I like.

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