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[–] samuelazers@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

As i read this, i am remembered of Newsom meeting Trump, after he refused to help with Californian wildfires.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Why they all leaning forward except Newsom? lol

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

People misinterpret this image. Newsom isn't point at Trump, he's keeping the stack of people from falling over.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fake news. Some journo hack used photoshop. Here's the original, with Trup standing true and strong despite them all being on a hillside.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Skills mate, you got them. Nice one.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Cheers, fella! I'm AI^1^, me!

[1. AI: a two-letter abbreviation which commonly refers to Artificial Intelligence but which can also, although far less often, refer to Abject Imbecile.]

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Newsom’s gravity powers are pulling them in. They can’t help it

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Cali could make an agreement to join Canada or EU.

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

You'll need easy access to Canada. What better way than to have a close Canadian Province? - Wa state

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago (13 children)

How would a state secede from the US? Like, what’s the actual process?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 43 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The best way would be quiet quitting. Making routes to federal buildings surrounded by construction and road closures at odd times. Overlapping federal job descriptions internally and never communicating with federal equivalents unless required, and that with a “great email, still working on that!” Or “emailed Oregon about that and they had some great ideas, get with them for the data!”

Offering great state guard contracts to all military eligible to re-up, that exceed what the feds offer. Build out coastal protection fleet due to “them darn migrants.” Train your military in FPV as if you were what the US should be doing right now, so the feds know any pushback will be costly, and you’re not breaking any laws anyway, remember?

Tell your state and local police we don’t work with the FBI or IRS in cooperation any more, and let the populace know the feds must individually enforce all tax law. That’s where it’s good for the Feds to remember that’s not required, and the 4th amendment prevents them being forced to act… in fact, that makes them subject to arrest for trying due to the laws of the great state of california.

All legal, and petty. But legal.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Looks like you've been thinking of this... for a while already.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 7 points 6 days ago

Only in minecraft.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

That's ingesting the ''I'll get right back to you'' form of revolution sounds more plausible than anything else I've heard. Just slow walk it to death.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The state government would put forwards a local movement to secede from the US, and if it actually passed the federal government would butt in and go "you can't secede, that's completely illegal and unconstitutional" (it is), at which point the state would either go "oh well" and stand down or say "go suck eggs" and continue trying to secede, which the federal government would treat as rebellion or insurrection.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So, easy then! We know insurrections aren't a big deal and have no real consequences. Full steam ahead!

/s just in case

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[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even if the federal government says “okay”. They may actually turn around and pretend it never happened.. or they can start a war with them.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 7 points 6 days ago

I don't think the GOP would start a war just to start a war. They are a party grounded in principles and morals, and aren't petty little bitches.

/s

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is no process. States cannot just up and say "see ya" on their own, we fought a war over that.

If the people felt that it would be OK for a state to leave, the proper thing to do would be to pass an amendment stating a process, and then the state would do it. There would be a lot of details to hammer out: does the State get to keep Federal property (like military bases)? Does it inherit a share of the deficit? What happens to deferred US taxes on things like 401k accounts?

IMHO it would take so long to hammer that stuff out that it's basically impossible.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"But it's not legal!"

Have you learned nothing the past three months? Laws are what we make of them.

A state seceding is a simple process:

  1. The state passes an act to allow it.

  2. The sitting president endorses the idea and agrees to let them go peacefully.

That's it. The United States Constitution itself was illegally written, an exercise in simple willful power. State secession works the same way.

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[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

In short: War. I'm not being hyperbolic either.

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[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Would be fun to watch companies from other states bypass the tariffs by buying California products.

Then of course, Trump will propose tariffs on a State.

It would be hilarious if only red states had tariffs with the rest of the world.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (6 children)
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[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Anyone speaking of secession - please, read history. We do not want to do that again, I don’t care what you believe in, it is a terrible idea. Please think it through beyond how admittedly awesome it would be in theory alone.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 40 points 6 days ago

It's a terrible idea, but so is invading Greenland, Canada, or Panama. We don't do such things anymore, read history why, but yet, here we are.

This is how a possible secession starts. Trump might prohibit California from doing this because it goes against his masters plan of destroying the US, California doesn't want to become a husk of it's former self and pushes through.

If California were to secede, it would immediately break the rest of the US. All the red states have been so poorly managed for decades that they near fully rely in handouts from successful states like California. With California gone, other blue and successful states would likely follow because they won't be able to pay the bill for those states either, splitting the US into a successful new country and dirt poor third world type theocratic dictatorship nation. Maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing, let the christo fascists live in the hell hole that they want

Secession(s) will likely include a civil war, and right now with the decade of trump shit causing division and chaos, I think that too isn't too far fetched anymore. There is nothing as horrible as neighbor fighting neighbors, ask Yugoslavia, but here we are in Trump's world.

Wouldn't MAGA supposedly be thrilled for California to leave?

I'm trying to imagine trumper militia marching into California saying, "we need to keep this liberal shithole and it's 54 blue electoral votes".

Yeah, it would be devastating for the US economy, but if MAGA has told us anything it's that they prefer to tank the economy than embrace any kind of diversity.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

lol i'm considering a move to Tijuana so i can commute to San Diego.. if California can nix the chicken tax then i'm moving.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

"United" States stands divided. It just gets worse...and at an incredible speed. It's always quicker and easier to demolish as opposed to building. Every one wants the easy money and the quick buck without a balanced expenditure of energy.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, there's actually hostoric precedent for trying. Emphasis on trying.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (9 children)
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