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In the US, you cannot ban people from using an app on their personal phone in your community. This is just ignorant. I'm not an AI bro, but you can't just have each community deciding on what constitutional rights they want to violate.
Not sure freedom to use apps is included in the US Constitution ..
That would likely violate the first amendment. Many of the ways you use your phone are considered forms of speech/expression. Wholesale banning of sectors of these by a government is a legitimate violation of your rights.
Fuck AI, tho.
Tell that to all the places that banned porn.
Originally porn was protected by the first amendment.
There's a whole movie about this called the people versus Larry flynt that kind of explains why.
Well, you see, something something God.
My god can beat up your god. Their name is "God That Beats Up Other Gods." Therefore you have to do what I say. I even got a note to that effect
Think of the children!
Religious Leader Zealots: "Yes, of course we are."
AI is something that violates every posible law (moral and legal). It should be hard banned.
Yes. Every. Possible. Law.
AI quartered troops in my home.
In all seriousness, if someone wanted to sue that local government referring the first amendment, they would likely take the ban down.
That said, I don’t find any actual article from a reputable news outlet describing what actually happened and what is in the city council ordinance. Likely a brief unenforceable article, which, as such, has no bearing on anyone’s life.
A redditor mentioned they banned “self improving” ai, which, if true, would explain why it isn’t getting more coverage- this is a nothing burger.
The year is 2029, Meta's GrokBots have taken over the world. They approach Bloomington Indiana, their next target. A kindly older gentleman approaches the army on the outskirts of town.
"Sorry boys, we banned self improving AI back in 2026, you are not allowed here."
The robots nod and continue onward, parting around the outskirts of town like a river flowing around a rock.
The town is saved. It becomes the last bastion of humanity within 6 months.
a big sign outside town says
It's basically just writing a letter with extra steps
The output technically belongs to the AI company, does the first amendment apply to non human entities? If it does I don't think anyone should be supporting that application ..
Banning it outright is ableist, there's no need include the right to use certain apps in the Constitution.
There aren’t disabilities that require access to the plagiarism machine; it’s insulting to act like disabled people can’t write or make art.
there are few things ablebodied people find more offensive than a disabled person who can outperform them.
Maybe, but this isn't discussing using an app on your phone. This is discussing an app using a service that is not on your phone. If you're running a model locally then sure, they probably can't do anything about that. If it's a product being sold by a company then they can.
As an obvious example, they can ban you from using a child pornography app (regardless of if it's local-only). I'm certain you agree that they're allowed to do that, right? It's obvious in that example. What's the difference with AI if they ban that?
CP is illegal everywhere. ChatGPT is a legal app. Replace ChsrGPT with another legal product, like Apple: "I don't like Apple business decisions so we ban all Apple products from being used in our town". Apple products are legal. Should they be able to tell you that you can't use any Apple services in their town?
Imagine if every community could tell you what legal products you cannot use privately within their city limits. It is absurd.
It's not that absurd. Consider weapons (not guns, because the Supreme Court doesn't know how to read the 2A), or drugs (like Kratom, which has been causing issues lately). Do you agree they can regulate those? They're federally legal. That doesn't mean they can't be illegal locally. There are a lot of things that are legal federally but locally illegal.
Again you are making arguments that are not equal. Communities have always had the right to regulate sales. That's why pornography bans and alcohol bans exist. But it is for the sale of the restricted product. You can drink alcohol in a dry county, you just have to drive across the county line.
It is not only absurd, but it is unenforceable without forcing people to allow authorities to inspect their phones and computers or spy on their web traffic.
They do not have the right to create a law that infringes on your personal rights to access legal content. It's so absurd it's more likely a stunt to influence ignorant voters than an ordinance they plan to ever act upon.
AI products are rarely running locally. You're using the service of a company, who is not doing so for free. Even if you aren't paying, you're consuming the product. Like you said, they can regulate sales, like this.
I agree, it's practically unenforceable (on the consumer). However, there are many such laws. They're usually used to add on to a crime that is already committed. Rarely does someone get pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt, for example.
It's not legal content if they make it illegal. For example, like you said, they can do porn bans, right? If they restrict accessing AI products, that's the same thing, right?
They're only banning super intelligence. That doesn't exist as a product.
Well didn't trump rename AI into SI?
It’s a product. It can be banned. It’s dumb and shows a general lack of understanding by those in charge but I don’t see what this has to do with the first amendment or the constitution more broadly.
And a product that doesn't exist!