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[โ€“] orioler25@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It is honestly so difficult to explain to people like this that they're being harmful even when they recognize one element of that harm and take it as the endpoint. You just compared this to an online cultural space that literally advocates for and has facilitated dozens of mass murders under the premise of misogyny and aggrieved entitlement. Maybe if those things are comparable to you, you aren't the right person to be talking about it, and presuming you are is exactly what the issue is.

If you call someone an asshole, that is not the same thing as calling them a slur, and either choice represents different kinds of people. It is not that you were a big stinky meanie, but that the beliefs behind these words are fundamentally bigoted. Yes, fucking lolcow culture that enabled the mass harassment of disabled people, often younger, sometimes even to the point of suicide, is not a suitable thing to refer to some person being weird about something you find gross. Even if you look at this as harassment, comparing it to fascist terrorists only serves to obscure the specificity and ideology of that culture and its very real politics as well as the hundreds of people who have been killed because of it (and that's without even addressing how this culture is directly linked to the current popularity of fascist politics in the US, then we're really talking about a mass scale of suffering you think is trivial).

So, why would a person who openly admitted to participating in exceptionally cruel group behaviour then take an opportunity to do something like that? hmmmmmm.๐Ÿค”

But sure, totally dude, you feel super bad about it and rib yourself for it, so that makes it okay to still believe in. You can tell this site is mostly men because of exactly shit like this, where you clearly have empathy for only one group involved in this violence, and it isn't the victims.

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel I need to begin by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is, if this behavior doesn't tick any boxes. Tertiary and quaternary sources offered you an incomplete picture, to the point that I don't know where to offer information. You will have to ask questions to fill in your blanks.

Lolcow is a slur?? I didn't perceive it that way, which is where the misunderstanding began. I can absolutely see how you'd take what I wrote differently based upon that distinction, and I'll avoid using the term in that way in the future. I appreciate you clarifying that for me. To me, it was the same as shorthand describing them as maladaptive and easily baited, as that was the contemporaneous definition. I'm not going to excuse it, that was my mistake.

I don't believe it would be productive to speak on anything in your last two paragraphs, as there are clearly misunderstandings, whether you recognize them or not.

[โ€“] orioler25@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sure every criticism feels like a misunderstanding to you. Common trope of abusers too, go figure, wonder if that's related.

Just also, "maladaptive," after pretending to not understand the ableist connotations this whole time is just the cherry on top. Again, I see you dude.

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you've clearly checked out of this conversation. I want to thank you once again for clarifying, what I did was objectively deeply shitty, but I understand completely that there is nothing of value to be gained for either one of us in continuing this conversation. If I transgress upon someone in the future, I'd appreciate you doing what you've done here today.

[โ€“] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Genuinely, none of what you just wrote here is necessary. This person isn't offering anything remotely close to reasonable criticisms. They're just a faux leftist who has identified you as someone that it's socially acceptable for them to bully.

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Some of what they said comes from candid misunderstandings and absence of information, but I did look it up. Lolcow is, indeed, utilized as a slur in current day. I definitely do not want to utilize a word that hits more strays than targets, which is where my appreciation lies.

And I certainly wouldn't call them a faux leftist. Just someone who was deeply hurt by something and lashing out without regard for any attainable constructive end goal. That was decades of my life, so I see them and I can meet them where I need to be met. Regardless of their intent, I gleaned immensely useful information from them, and I highly value it. Their continued action meets my needs as a person far better than asking them to simmer down, and my comment above is my best attempt at having my needs met.

[โ€“] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough. Even if I don't agree with your assessment, I have a lot of respect for your attitude.

[โ€“] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Thanks, humility is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural

[โ€“] orioler25@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

"They're actually the bully," a classic.

[โ€“] orioler25@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"If," I'm sure.