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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 101 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (25 children)

I feel like a + shaped screw head would be as standard as a pyramid if multiple civilizations had developed screws independently. It wouldn't be the last kind, but it would be there somewhere. Maybe even a long, long time ago.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There are at least 3 standards for the + shape already. Phillips, Pozidrive, and Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS). They do not play well together.

insert obligatory xkcd standards reference

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't forget Frearson/Reed & Prince!

But wait, there's more!

And even more!

We only have standards so we can break'em.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

JIS has been obsoleted and replaced in Japanese products with the ISO Phillips bit shape. It still exists on lots of products pre 2000 though.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 100 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn't even as good.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 81 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You'd only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This guy mechanics

Indeed torx is so good because it attempts to maximize the surface where pressure is applied to. This is good on smaller sized bolts that are more prone to being rounded, but especially amazing when removing bolts that may have been exposed and potentially corroded

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Never had or seen a stripped Robertson, they are robust AF. Don't ask me the physics. (They go deep into the screw head because of the simple shape, maybe that has part of it. And they are tapered, it's not just a square, so they manage to grip the bit like a mofo. You don't cam out of a Robertson.)

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Germany has entered the chat.

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've stripped more internal hex than all other types combined

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

We have to go deeper.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Disappointed that the first comment isn't, "May the Torx be with you"

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

These aren’t the post titles you’re looking for… 👋

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] DonGirses@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thought it was gonna be the Phillip's head strip

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

Edit: at least they didn't use Phillips screws

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago

Can't get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago

That's because they were worried someone would have taken them off.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hey, if it works it works.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Um, actually, those are rigid kal'dron adjustment pins used to correct focus crystal orientation.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

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Somehow, Phillips head survived.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 16 points 2 years ago

Preventing cam-out with a Phillips screw is like learning the ways of the Force. It takes patience and skill, something the Empire’s rigid Torx would never understand.

[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 years ago

Bet it’s an inch screw too

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

No wonder the Jedi failed.

[–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You'd think that they would have switched to Pozidriv.

[–] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Why? Torx is better in every way. If you are going to change, why half ass it to Phillips 2.0

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Where do you think we got it from?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

May the Philips be with you.

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