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[–] MrSelfDestruct@reddthat.com 9 points 51 minutes ago

What if we start having more Luigi's in society?

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

And people are going to believe this pig.

[–] Smeagol666@crazypeople.online 9 points 1 hour ago

Thanks for the fucking tip, Sauron.

On another tangentially related topic, Smaug wouldn't even be in the top ten richest beings if he and his stolen wealth were real.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 hours ago

The CEO of a... checks notes... mass surveillance company named after a skrying orb used by an evil sorcerer in arguably the most famous fantasy series of all time... warns that a... wealth tax on billionaires (like himself)... would cause... mass surveillance...?

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 59 minutes ago

How progressive of him.

[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

So business as usual?

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I, with a straight face, suggest we should fire the Palantir CEO out of a cannon off a tall cliff into the ocean. Preferably one with jagged rocks on the coastline.

[–] nastronot@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Whoa whoa whoa.

We went through all this trouble making the CEO cannon. Let’s not stop at one.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 59 minutes ago

As if there's a correlation. That would happen regardless.

[–] Harissa_Beans@lemmy.world 124 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kbal@fedia.io 64 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I thought maybe he meant that taxing them would anger the billionaires and more mass surveillance is just what they do when they're angry, but no. He just means surveillance of billionaire's bank accounts. I'm not sure that really counts as "mass."

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 23 minutes ago

And monitored it should be.

Once a person has enough wealth that affects, say, more than 50 "unaffiliated" (non-family member/dependant/immediate circle, not including employees) people's lives, their finances should be as transparent as aquarium glass.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Every time I deposit more than $600 cash I’m getting monitored. These fuckers have no clue how we live.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In the 60 Minutes interview, when the interviewer reminded Trump his wealth had increased by $3 billion, Trump immediately shot back "Well, so did everyone's." I dont think they even remember that non-billionaires exist, and if they do they don't consider it important.

[–] nastronot@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

We are their livestock. They manage us and farm us.

[–] 2ndDegreeOWO@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

And that's just the mandated monitoring -- it doesn't include the monitoring that businesses and banks are doing for free, on their own.

I hear rumors that many places are rolling out systems to record and track the serial number of every bill of cash that goes in or out, because they can sell that information to big data collectors who can use it to piece together a picture of where cash flows -- previously the only flow of money they couldn't completely monitor. And, of course, that big data is available to the government at any time, either by buying it or by getting a friendly judge to sign off on sweeping warrants.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

I thought it's 200, now.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

They have plenty of clues. They wrote the damned clues

[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 83 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So Mass surveillance CEO say taking away their power will cause more of it? Makes sense /s

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 21 points 5 hours ago

It’s threat of punishment. There’s the money, and then there’s the rest of us. We’re at the point where the money doesn’t expect further pushback (with teeth) from us.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The bearings will continue until my morale improves.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Which surfaces? If we're talking nails on chalkboard then it's all smiles. But a well greased main gear? May wanna push for a harsher threat.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 34 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I swear these tech billionaires are all absolutely batshit insane!

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 hours ago

No, they are sane. Just completely evil. Not even human anymore. I don't know what it is about money that makes someone despise their own species, but it's very consistent.

[–] subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Not insane, full of shit. They will do anything, and say anything if it means they can make a little more money.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

Saying "anything" for personal gain indicates a lack of empathy and care about consequences of ones own actions. It's indicative of "cluster B personality disorders" (mental illnesses) associated with empathetic impairment, like narcissism and psychopathy.

If you listen to what many billionaires and their lackeys say very publicly and openly to journalists, they do not even attempt to hide their mental illness. Most of them are evidently sociopathic or psychopathic. The fact that these people rise to positions of power indicates systemic failures across society.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 22 points 5 hours ago

He says it not as a warning, but as a threat.

[–] Potocobe@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Conveniently glossing over the fact that we, in a normal world, would only be using the AI to look at all of their stuff and not ours. Stupid idea all around.

Why can’t we just use the numbers we already have? I mean they say Musk is worth x amount, Bezos owns x amount. They get those big numbers from somewhere. Tell them how much tax they owe based on how much they theoretically own. They can pay their taxes with their theoretically valuable stocks/shares whatever. They are going to be all like, “I can’t afford that. Nobody has that much money!”

To which we will say, “Fine then, uh give me that super yacht right there and 10 super cars and we will let you start a payment plan.”

If people don’t pay their taxes the government can seize their property to cover it, right? This is how we can achieve the reduction of billionaire wealth and find a path to balancing out all of the money we owe ourselves from all the government shenanigans over the last century or so.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You're trying to be fair while they are hanging you by the toes, beating you with a rake, and then catching the nickels that fall out.

Then they use that money to buy more rakes, and do that to everyone you know until they've robbed the entire world.

They're not planning a fair fight. They never have fought fair once in their entire lifetime. The more you fight fair, the more people die horribly.

[–] Potocobe@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

How is taxing someone an unreasonable amount of money based on what seems to be an arbitrary gross calculation of their apparent wealth with the intention of taking their assets to pay for it fighting fair?

To actually be fair, I would prefer my government be more fair than less fair as a general rule.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

It should be legal to spit on this guy if you see him in public.

CEO of Tech Industrial Complex vendor argues against a strawman created to scare people who own a gadsden flag.

[–] Bigolbilly7722@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We’re already under mass surveillance, they just haven’t made the AI tools capable enough to sort that data into a digestible format

[–] 2ndDegreeOWO@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But they're working on it. That's the real reason for all that massive datacenter buildout. It will finally be possible to monitor everything everyone says and does.

[–] Potocobe@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

There won’t be anything stopping people from unplugging their tech and just walking away from it. Go back to writing checks and paying cash. Buy an old school flip phone in case you need to call somebody. I mean, the internet is mostly shit at this point already.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

There won’t be anything stopping people from unplugging their tech and just walking away from it.

Except all the Flock and other surveillance cameras creating a panopticon in meatspace, too.

Both of my next-door neighbors have Ring doorbells. I cannot leave my house without Big Tech knowing it, even if I leave my phone at home.

[–] 2ndDegreeOWO@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There won’t be anything stopping people from unplugging their tech and just walking away from it.

Facial recognition cameras in stores and public buildings, on poles next to roads and bike paths, and in every modern car you pass near will still be recording and reporting your location.

Go back to writing checks and paying cash.

Checks are just as traceable as credit/debit card transactions. (Perhaps even slightly moreso, since they all come as a package deal with a nice handwriting sample and a memo line saying what the check is for, in your own words?)

Cash is going to be (mostly) traceable soon, too, as more and more places 'voluntarily' sign up for programs where they scan and record the serial number of every bill that passes through, in or out. Cash will only be untraceable if you're very careful about where you get it and where you spend it. And even then, unless the people you get it from and give it to are also just as careful, it will still be fairly easy to reconstruct a picture of where the money went. If $300 is withdrawn from your account, and then later a drug dealer deposits the same $300 in their account, the surveillance state won't 100% for sure know what happened there, but they'll have a pretty clear idea.

Buy an old school flip phone in case you need to call somebody.

Can still be used to trace your location anytime you have it powered on. And old school phones are even easier to remotely eavesdrop on, with no option of using encrypted messaging apps instead. The phones (and other devices) of everyone else around you are still listening in on everything you say.


Unless you can ensure that everyone around you gives up all technology just like you do, you're still subject to mass surveillance.

So ... anybody want to go form a tech-backward hippie commune with me, way out in the middle of nowhere?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

Flip phones are triangulable. They also have microphones.

[–] CalemitousVariantK@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

We'll just have to increase taxes until they can't afford surveillance I guess.

[–] cruseo@piefed.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Lol, he should do stand-up