Why don't you just buy a few senators and do something about it, if you're so upset?
this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2026
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Yup. Donors get policies, voters get apologies.
Donors get policies, voters get ~~apologies~~ fined.
Rich Americans have money and buy senators.
Poor Americans have guns and take fascism sitting down.
MMW the midterm results will enshrine DNC Incumbents as the fascist enablers they are.
MMW the midterm results will enshrine DNC Incumbents as the fascist enablers they are.
Can't wait for Dems to take both the House and Senate ... and then always be just one vote short of being able to do anything meaningful. As usual.
If only Americans would learn from MAGA primarying GOP incumbents until the party moved in the direction they wanted.
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Yep. The "fine OR imprisonment" part means fines for the rich, and imprisonment for the poor.
The filthy rich only go to prison for stealing from other filthy rich assholes.
“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class”
- Final Fantasy Tactics (1997)
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Except it's not even fines anymore, apparently it's perfectly legal as long as you destroy the book after scanning it.
They used the duress PIN on their rare book library
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I'm not pirating, I'm building an AI model
Honestly, this sounds like the best test of copyright laws.
If corporations can train models on pirated data, and corporations are persons, then you, as a person, should be able to infringe copyright to train an AI model too.
“The training process [also] implicates the right of reproduction.” – Part 3, III, B, U.S. Copyright Office Guidelines on generative AI.
I agree with the conclusion, but that rationale is wrong. First, you can digitize a DVD. Second, it's not a double standard. You can grab copies of random stuff and jam it in an AI model too.
Our laws are written such that it's making a copy outside of reasonable use that's illegal, and AI training only makes a copy incidentally to what they're doing and then it's deleted. It's the same standard that makes viewing a photo on an artists website legal.
It's not bullshit because they're breaking the law, but because we need to refine the law to make it clear training an AI model isn't a reasonable usage anymore than a public broadcast of a DVD is a reasonable use.
Trying to shoehorn it into the existing laws will just create a nightmare of loopholes and complications.
AI training only makes a copy incidentally to what they’re doing and then it’s deleted. It’s the same standard that makes viewing a photo on an artists website legal.
That's not what the U.S. Copyright office says about training. They hold that it does implicate the copyright of reproduction. Meaning: If you train on a protected work without a license you are violating copyright, and if that's not a fair use then you are breaking the law.
Training ~ viewing might be an analogy used by "AI" brands, but it is not legal reality.
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There may be a limitation if the DVD is copy-protected, as is usually the case. There's too much to read for a single comment in DMCA: https://www.congress.gov/105/plaws/publ304/PLAW-105publ304.pdf
But it does fall under this definition (§1201):
‘‘(a)(3) As used in this subsection—
‘‘(A) to ‘circumvent a technological measure’ means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner;
and
‘‘(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES.—(1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
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The larger part of the infringement is probably its use commercially. I doubt that there would have been such a fuss if it was a fully-open, low-profit operation.
But as-is, the commercial products are being used to make money for the AI company in an unauthorised way.
Similar to how it's generally frowned upon for fan media to make money, because it starts being infringement. You can have a "support the fan media maker" button, but you generally can't do things like put your fan media behind a pay wall. The IP owners will come down hard on you for that.
Commercializing a work virtually guarantees it's creation isn't "fair use".
But also, "fair use" is actually quite a bit more narrow than just non-commercial.
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remember folks: the entire problem is capitalism. it can literally all be solved by dismantling capitalism and …undismantling some guillotines.
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Missed a major part: the AI companies are buying rare books, scanning them and then burning them. It's not like buying a DVD which can easily be digitally copied with hardware that most people have at home, it's so mucn worse than that.
False, they never bought your book.
The AI company doesn't even have to buy it.
This is why I’m just back to pirating shit.
Especially if it’s from Amazon.
Digitizing a dvd shouldn't count as copyright infringement unless you are actively distributing the video or selling it. Bullshit.
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Exactly my argument. Its bullshit
Copyright laws are just state's monopoly on information, at this point.
Oh no no no no you got it all wrong, you have to digitize it and then burn the CD so that nobody can ever see it unless they have access to that digital copy.
Something something who else was it that burned books?
The law overwhelmingly favors corporate entities over people. We've been over this more times than HBO Max changed their logo.
A story as old as time.
Which means unlimited corrupt folk to eat.
Whether or not we can make long term change, idk.
But seeing these folk suffer sure would be nice regardless.
I'm so sick of the hypocrisy.
This defines my political stance better than any party does. I’m against hypocrisy. I’m pro fairness. For fucks sake, there’s a reason “liberty and justice for all” is part of the Pledge of Allegiance that American public school students (like me) said every morning from grade school through high school.
I can feel a rant coming on, so I’ll just be quiet now.
I'm sick of twitter reposts and this format, write the damn thing yourself i trust someone on lemmy more than i trust someone on twitter
welcome to the real world where those in power make up their own rules and tell us to abide by whatever rules they make up on the fly to keep us powerless.
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