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[–] diphthong@lemmy.world 263 points 6 days ago (12 children)
[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 139 points 6 days ago (2 children)

What Texas media and social pressure told them to. That's why we shouldn't let billionaires and liars run the media

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s letting them off the hook.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Im not sure if you're calling for harsher punishments to the billionaires that own mainstream media or if you're arguing that there should be further consequences for people that fell for a sophisticated misinformation campaign who are already suffering disproportionately under this administration.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago

I think it's disingenuous to ignore the heavy conservative leanings of a significant portion of Hispanic households as well as any who immigrated "the right way" and are pissed off by undocumented workers.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 37 points 6 days ago (10 children)

I’m not arguing for either, although taxing/eating the rich should always be on the table.

I’m saying that while in the macro sense disinformation has had a devastating effect on society, I’m not ready to let those “fooled” by it off the hook. It’s the 2020s, if you’re fooled by disinformation to this degree, you’ve let yourself be fooled.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Hispanics all over lean conservative. It comes with high religiosity rates. Look at any conservative members of a minority group and they'll probably be religious.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They expected deportations of only the "bad mexicans", not understanding thst every mexican is bad to this admin.

solidarity is a lost virtue in some communities.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 38 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The destruction of the left:

“We’re pissed off at the current administration. Everybody’s pissed off down here in south Texas,” the construction executive said, noting that most Hispanics in the area are Catholic. “Remember, we’re conservative, we’re not far left. We’re in the middle, conservative Latinos in south Texas. It doesn’t make sense.”

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 27 points 6 days ago

Bear in mind they are talking about what was probably the most conservative Democrat to hold office since the 50s.

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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They expected a scenario that would work out well for themselves. They didn't put any effort into thinking about whether or not any given scenario would work out well for themselves, but the Republican media assured them it would work out, so why would they doubt that?

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 21 points 5 days ago

I dunno, 200 years of American racism and past Republican sentiments towards Mexicans and Hispanics might have been a tip in the right direction.

God forbid anyone educate themselves before sticking a knife in a lightsocket.

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[–] btsax@reddthat.com 85 points 5 days ago
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So they're fucking stupid then? He's been anti-immigrant since long before he was elected. What did they think was going to happen?

Deport the "bad ones." Not realizing that bad is having a skin colour away from mayo.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just a reminder. Male Latinos are literally the reason Trump is in office right now. Kamala had the black and white support to win, but make Latinos swung like 40 pts hard right.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Indeed and racism played a heavy role while voting.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is some bullshit, on several levels.

White people voted 42%Harris, 57%Trump.

Hispanics voted 51% Harris, 46% Trump.

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2024 Does that look like a hispanic voting problem or a white problem?

Secondly, It gets complicated fast and I dont think can be easily reduced to "swung hard right". The "latino" vote is diverse and encompasses a lot of peoples: Mexico, central, south America, and Cuba (All pretty different folks with different political pressures, history, and biases) Immigration, economic opportunity, skepticism of the democratic party caring about them, anger about gaza and disapproval of Bidens justice policies broadly, and a general rejection of the economic status quo all factored in. By how much? Hard to get great polling data on that. But Biden and then Harris's message was literally that "nothing will fundamentally change", at a time when his approval rates were very low.

This whole comment thread is angry people shitting on Latinos as if they were the problem instead of white voters.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

WHOMP

fucking

WHOMP

you were all warned and didn't listen. You thought it was okay for him to subjugate "those illegals" because you thought you were the "good ones" so therefore it was okay to harm those groups.

Fuck you and enjoy not having a face

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 8 points 5 days ago

Met a Cuban last year who was a "Fuck your feelings" Trump supporter.

I think about him a lot whenever Trump threatens Cuba.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I remember a video about an immigration lawyer, who also immigrated from Mexico, who said Trump was only going to go after the criminals. Therefore business would be great for her. I really want to see a follow-up.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 66 points 6 days ago

I think they missed the part where Trump isn’t about stopping illegal immigration, just immigration. Past and present. For brown people.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 60 points 6 days ago

“It just seems now more than ever, if you’re brown, they’re gonna stop you,” said Mario Guerrero, a three-time Trump voter who leads the South Texas Builders Association. “And I know that sounds really racist, but it’s what we’re facing, man.”

The Supreme Court essentially signed off on a Trump immigration enforcement policy to assume speaking Spanish and looking brown is sufficient evidence to suspect someone is an illegal immigrant. It is about as openly racist as you can get.

I guess Mr. Guerrero doesn't like the bigotry now that he's on the receiving end of it?

[–] MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip 55 points 6 days ago (4 children)

They are idiots. My family is full of Latinos who pull the ladder from behind. They also think they could be on the same level as white people. Nope.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 47 points 6 days ago (10 children)

History is filled with people who were promised that we would pretend they were white if they just sold out everyone they cared about. Hasn't actually paid off yet.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Climbed the stairs.

Voted to have the stairs pulled up behind them.

Turned out they also voted to get kicked down from the platform themselves.

Frankly, such immigrant rightwingers are the only bunch that actually deserve the tender mercies of the likes of ICE.

(And for any knee-jerking "identity warriors" out there, never forget that immigrants are like everybody else and thus amongst them, plenty of people when they think they themselves are safe from it ("I'm alright Jack") are just as nasty hearthless and selfish "conservative" and even fascist as the Republicans)

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

...in my experience, first-generation-citizen demographics tend to skew hardest against undocumented immigrants; not sure whether that's because they put in the time, effort, + cost to secure their own citizenship and thus resent those who haven't done so in kind, or because they emmigrated to expressly to get away from their native demographic who comprise undocumented immigrants...

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

to be fair how would they know? he only insulted Latinos every time he talked about them, called them rapists and murderers, and promised he would deport all of them... like are they supposed to be mind readers???

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Wow, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (5 children)

If it's a poll showing it and not a news story on a massive protest, they're not really furious.

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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Catholisism is the dominant cult among them. Them falling for obvious lies is kind of par for the course

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 16 points 5 days ago

My Catholic in-laws voted for Trump in 2016 because Biden was going to outlaw Catholicism, of all things.

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's a big "why did you vote for Trump in the first place?" shaped hole in the middle of this story. Did the reporter not ask? Did they not think it was important?

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Legally documented immigrants are often considerably more strict and harsh in their views on undocumented immigrants. A very "I did it right and so should you have too" mentality. This is particularly strong among refugee immigrants (Cuban and Venezuela, for example). The problem here is the perception that undocumented immigrants are all members of roving street gangs selling drugs and murdering an raping. Farm hands and construction workers can get documentation that passes the checks required of employers. So they weren't expecting their own employees to be swept up in it.

They're not stupid, just heavily propagandized to where they need to experience personal consequence to reconsider. It a perfect chance to have the conversation with them to win them over.

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[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I am baffled someone actually didn't understand when a far-right white male politician says "illegals" they've always meant "people of color"

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 19 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's Christianity. A ton of immigrant Hispanics are extremely Christian and Republicans are historically the Christian party

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[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago
[–] LLMhater1312@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago

All the people that can be convinced they are temporary embarrassed millionaires have been suckered by Republicans, Trump most of all. Unfortunately that includes people from all identity groups, although he really convinced poor and middle class whites the most.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 9 points 5 days ago
[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And they're all voting Republican again, because the Right To Work will make them rich.

[–] worhui@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

If they were getting rich from this they would have ice on speed dial.

The real quote " thanks to the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown and the shaky economy."

It's the shaky economy that is their problem. They didn't profit from the hollowing out of their community. They support the deportations. They got theirs. That's why support is flagging.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

ZERO SYMPATHY!!! Those f'n idiots voted for it.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately they're also a lot of Hispanic ICE employees. Like Jewish Nazis, they think they're "safe".

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Biggest problem is thinking of Hispanics as a monolith

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[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 9 points 5 days ago

Voting for things then getting mad at them is a Texas tradition. I had to stop talking to people because hearing people say "God damn [insert politician] rabble rabble rabble. I mean, I voted for him and will again, but fuck that guy." Somewhere in their brain files is a line that says politicians are untrustworthy bastards and instead of fixing it they make it a self fulfilling prophecy.

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