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So I feel almost everyone on PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin is against AI, therefor FuckAI is such a big community and so on, and I'm a bit afraid to ask but is there any AI user community on Lemmy where they discuss Harnesses, Agents, recent news and political development out side of FuckAI?

I use it as a cool tool, it helps me implement a lot of small project for which I wouldn't have had time as a dad with a full time job. And I'd like to discuss those things on Lemmy but everywhere I look it's just FuckAI.

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 4 hours ago

They're on db0.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Damn man I know it's no stupid questions... But just God damn! You did it. You managed to ask a stupid question.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 3 hours ago

I was looking hard where it would fit in best ^^

[–] Jimbo@pawb.social 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, you may want to look for a place outside Lemmy etc. There are many platforms you can find that have plenty of pro AI people, here is not one of them.

[–] gankouskhan@piefed.zip 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I never thought about it until this post. Honestly so refreshing and I'm at peace.

[–] Jimbo@pawb.social 2 points 7 hours ago

It's so nice to know that whatever I'm looking at around here it's very unlikely to be AI. And whatever person I'm talking to is most likely not a bot.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The only one I currently follow is !localllama@sh.itjust.works

I'm not anti-AI, but I am very much anti Big AI and also don't personally care for AI-generated images (they just look...uncanny to me), so I don't have much interest in anything beyond the tools I can run locally.

Searching "AI" has a lot of false positives, but searching "llama" has some results at https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=llama

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Is your project worth destroying the world? Or is it that as a dad with a full time job, you consider that you'll die before seeing the consequences that will torture and kill your kids, and so it's not your concern?

Everywhere it's just fuck AI because it's the modern plague, so it's a pretty good sign that you're struggling to find people who like AI here.

[–] MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Here's an honest question that I wonder about every once in a while. If I'm running a fully local model at home on my server, and my electricity comes largely from hydroelectric dams, am I contributing to the demise of the world? I watch the power usage when I run it, and I waste more power sitting idle in Final Fantasy 14 for a few minutes while using the bathroom than I do running a local AI.

To be clear, I am not disregarding the absolute horrors that our capitalistic overlords are wreaking on our world in the creation of these models, or the ethical concerns of where the training data came from. Those sins are on their heads.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If the model is pretrained, then you are just outsourcing the main costs. Running the model isn't the most expensive part.

And let's face it, no one does what you described, and the ones that do are not the ones going around defending the other ways to use AIs.

[–] MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure when you mean no one does what I described. Running a local AI? Ollama is huge, running small models for simple queries is trivial nowadays.

Like I said, I'm not disregarding the costs that went into making the model. Whether I use it or not, it exists and nothing will change that. I did not ask for it to be made, neither did I ask for a tree to be felled to make the grip of my hammer, or for resin to be cast into the table I found at Goodwill, or for any other wonderfully horrid example of the worst humanity has to offer. We live in the mess offered to us, and we as a community can come together to make it better. What we can do as a community is help fund ethically trained models and reduce the reliance on the giant data centers.

I think you might be able to tell where my edible hit in that ramble.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

I'm saying that "no one" runs a local, green-powered model, like yeah a handful of people probably do but they have no impact at all.

And when you start with the mentality of the "it's there so why not use it", you are much more prone to let more happen. If when someone gets murdered, everyone reacts by just mourning and not trying to find out who did it, and to prevent further murders, things won't get better.

AIs need to be fought with the strongest force or they'll win. That's why you already see a split between "no AI here" places, and "oh yeah I'm just using AIs for this and this and that, but reasonably, and I also tried generating images but just for fun, and I made a slopsoftware just to be quicker, and I'm using it more because it frees my time, etc".

It's a slippery slope argument, you might say, but we're seeing it happen. People slowly accept AIs, just like they slowly accept capitalism, just like they accept fascism, and just like they accept all those brain-killing things that are hammered into their heads by everyone around. The only way to resist is to unequivocally reject it, not tolerate exceptions, and once the problem is solved, once AIs are green and powered by the wind, we can have fun running our local models and whatnot.

TLDR: I get your point, but I think it's a position that is very vulnerable to being corrupted, and the state of the world, including FOSS software and the like, seem to support my point of view.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

just do a search of communities. Im not that into it so I have not but I see ai postitive ones show. Im not sure the percentages negative to positive but to me the really small group is the in between. There are really strong opinions that are way negative on the whole thing and way positive. Honestly you see that on almost all things in the fediverse. You don't often see it has some capability and its capability has grown and it will likely continue to do things but its limited and it may never be able to get over certain limitations. Now granted on thing is that folks in the center can read an ai bad type post and agree with a variety of bad things and also respond to an ai good and say yeah this and this is good. So maybe they seem so small because they just don't post as much nuance. Heck the google installing nano on chrome post got two comments bitching like it was some kind of hit piece on ai in general.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

just do a search of communities

Funny because AI is killing intellectual work, and OP shows that he can't make a basic search on a simple forum. He is typically the kind of people who should stop using AI.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

well we all know the federation search is not perfect but I think I have found it before from my instance. its possible his is not getting enough federation or something find it. I was being lazy though and figure he might respond back if the search was getting him no where and then I would get off my but and look again. im 100% I have seen both positive and negative ai communities though.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] exupulosion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

thank you for the blocklist

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Every other platform has an AI space, feel free to destroy the environment and employment opportunities there.

[–] farbidden_lands@quokk.au 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

nostr has a lot of ai and vibe coder bros. I got creeped out and left though.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You likely need to use a instance that doesn't de-federate them, or search for them if they aren't de-federated.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have my own single user instance, because I knew I didn't want to be dependent on someone else to decide for me what I should and shouldn't be able to interact with on the Threadyverse.

But that also means I have to actively subscribe to communities and don't get the organic All feed populated by other people.

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

You could use a second account on an instance that federates with everyone for discovery.