Solumbran

The usual cherrypicking, what a surprise.

Whatever.

Have you tried "choosing not to drink", ever? Have you ever had a glass of champagne handed to you to celebrate an occasion, and tried to say "sorry, I don't drink alcohol"?

Because if you did, you would know that there is a constant pressure to drink, because people have a drinking problem and hate seeing others not follow the same tracks, it makes them think about themselves.

Also, you're putting the whole responsibility on the victim here. But even tv shows and movies (which are heavily, heavily in favour of alcohol) almost always have the situation of "creep that tries to get someone drunk to rape them", because yes, you can get someone to drink. Knowingly or not. And the funny part is that the more they drink, the easier it is to get them to drink more. And on top of that, alcohol also makes the perpetrator more likely to act. I guess all of these bad problems it causes are worth the positive parts: cancer risks, addiction, and whatnot. Ah and I forgot, a slight sense of temporary , confused joy.

Also, the outfit isn't correlated to rape. Alcohol is used as a tool to rape. The comparison doesn't work. And an outfit rarely hurts anyone, while alcohol does.

I said that mindful drinking means not drinking, you reacted saying that I'm not wanting people to have fun, implying that alcohol is a requirement to have fun.

If you can't have "joy" without alcohol, you have a problem, and should worry about that. Your reply doesn't even make any kind of sense.

And also, no, I'm not going to "let people be" when they do things that cause a lot of problems. And yes, alcohol does cause a lot of problems, even when it's "just a beer", and unless you've lived in a cave without anyone else your whole life you have seen it, or participated in it

Maybe start caring about things once in a while, this "let things be" never worked.

Well yeah, the basic AI training has been done, so obey your big tech overlords and work harder, slave.

They don't care about how you feel, only about what you produce.

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people"

You'll have to find better than that. Also people who get raped under the influence of alcohol weren't going to be raped anyway, so your invalid argument isn't enough even if you decide to believe it is valid.

"La justice appartenant à un système corrompu n'a pas fait d'efforts pour éviter la corruption du système"

Qui aurait pu prédire

If you can't have fun without alcohol, you're an alcoholic. Your addiction shouldn't be encouraged and pushed on others.

Well that's a good amount of delusion over there.

Sure, let's pretend that violence is never related to alcohol, and that there has never been a single case of someone using alcohol to rape someone else. Also it's good for health and possibly makes you immortal.

Your individual experience doesn't negate millenia of alcohol-induced violence. Stop the bullshit.

This looks weirdly AI.

What's up with the hand holding the kettle?

Sugar doesn't make you beat up, kill, or rape people. Sugar doesn't actually kill you if you are addicted to it and stop too fast.

Cars are a tool with a lot of uses that would be really hard to replace, but yes, they should be much more restricted, it's absurd that having a 1+ ton metal machine is so easy but carrying a pocket knife is seen as crazily dangerous.

Drinking alcohol has no use, very bad effects, is addictive in one of the worst ways (once again, I don't know of many drugs that actually cause you to suddenly die if you stop too fast), causes horrible behaviours that endanger both the user and people around, funds a horrible industry of pieces of shit.

Even things like heroin or cocaine are not that unilaterally bad.

The only thing that even compares would be cigarettes, as they bring absolutely nothing good at all, and also can kill others, but the scale is very different and no one has ever been killed because of the influence of a cigarette, or raped because of being too high from it.

If we follow my logic, alcohol (and cigarettes) should not be allowed, and that's it. Once it's done you can wonder all you want about sugar, cars and heroin, have debates, etc. Nothing prevents anyone from banning alcohol and not following up with a campaign to ban everything that can be bad.

And one last point, if you ban alcohol, it becomes impossible to advertise it. If you ban advertising, I can guarantee that it will actually not be banned, because the laws are going to be circumvented by lobbies. That's why there are lobbies that have been protecting cigarettes, but there's no such thing as a lobby for heroin or so, a ban is much harder to avoid than a restriction.

Okay, let's put the perspective from another angle.

Should companies be allowed to make money out of an addictive, toxic drug that pushes people to be more violent, irresponsible and basically out of control, and at the same time much more vulnerable to rape?