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"Norwegian hospitals are free though. I was just surprised the first time I learned Norwegians pay at all to visit the doctor because I assumed we had the same system."

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago

Plot twist, the American didn't even hear the conversation. He just showed up violent and obnoxious.

[–] desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Health is a commodity. Think about that. Fucking Americans. I live in the US. We have commodified health.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Everything has been commodified; housing, food. The line must go up.

Call me when that line is the number of 1%-ers being dragged into the streets and beaten.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

It was done long before me or you had any say in it.

Hut yeah its fucked up.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also in the most communist country, healthcare would be subject to some market forces. Namely: how many sick people you have versus how many doctors you have. You can affect these with central planning somewhat, but not a lot. Unless you kill all the sick people of course.

Free market could fix that if properly applied. Also public health care could fix that if properly applied (i.e. decorrupted, modernized and funded so much that taxes would be amazing).

[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In France, we used to be at the top, now I need to wait 6 months to see a lung specialist because we lack of doctor (yeah teaching 3000 doctors per year in the 90's was a brilliant idea), we pay ~30€ and get 19€ refunded for a basic general consultation. If you want more, you need a fucking insurance. I remember spending a night in children ER waiting more than 4 hours to have an asthma attack handled because the hospital was empty. Privatization is the way to speed run turning anything into a fucking disaster.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

Some parties want more privatised healthcare here in Norway as well, so that we could all enjoy more individual agony.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago

β€œEuropeans pay for health care. Americans pay for health insurance.”

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

$17.14 USD at the time I checked.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Has been less than 16 USD for the last 15 years until Iran. So sad way to cut inflation, but yay.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

By American standards, I have extremely good health insurance through my wife's workplace. We still have to pay $25 per doctor visit on top of paying every month for the insurance.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ignorant Norwegian here, but that sounds extremely good for US standards, happy for you for that. Out of curiosity, how much is paid monthly for that? And what would a broken leg and an ambulance to the hospital cost?

[–] ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ambulance rides cost a minimum of 1k USD. If you are not admitted to the hospital then it is not covered. If you are admitted then all costs ambulance and care normally has a 500$ copay and then you pay 20% or less depending on the insurance.

A broken leg that requires immediate surgery is something to admit. Just a cast is urgent care only, so you probably are S.O.L.

This is based on my experience with multiple insurances, there are tonnes of options, so I'm sure someone else would say it is different for them.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

For a family of 4 insurance is about 3k/month split between employer and employee. The amount that would cost is largely unknowable. My insurance has a $500 deductible, so I would definitely pay at least that much, probably more. After that insurance would cover 80-90% of the cost until an out of pocket maximum, which is 3k/person or 6k/family for me. A final cost around 1k would probably be a good deal, and up to 4-5k could happen depending on out of network fuckery.

[–] Twipped@l.twipped.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For my family of four I was paying half of $2400 per month (my employer paid the other half) for a very good PPO plan (meaning I could choose my own doctors) that had a $25 copay for doctor visits and no copay for medications after I met the $500 per person pharmacy deductible. That was up until I was laid off, then I had to pay for all of it until my COBRA coverage ended.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is more than I pay in taxes (in Norway). And I have a pretty decent income.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I have an average pay, and the monthly $2400 is almost double my taxes alone.

[–] Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Me too! Only costs 20k a year in premiums for the privilege of paying $30 copays and a $6k deductible! We're the fuckin greatest!

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is ridiculous, usa kid wouldnt even acknowledge the other kids exist.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 months ago

More like no usa kid at all due to drinking raw milk and skipping the measles vax

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The joke has been done to death, but I love the art style!

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

SATW is a classic, and excellent. https://satwcomic.com/

[–] trd@feddit.nu 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do they not practice "free card" in Norway? if you spend more than 230 American zlotty, the rest is free?

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, something like that.

Things that are counted as emergency is also free.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Kids up to 16 also go for free

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Is this the new pol balls?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As an American, I think the Dane has a point. Beating us is a really low bar

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Get off your ass and do something.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's too much to ask an American.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Correct. Absolute cowards.

[–] perry@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

β‚Ή5 in Kerala. Although you have to pay for meds yourself

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't processing 5 rupees cost more than the fee itself?

[–] perry@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

sorry didn't understand. processing what?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Processing the payment. Fees, etc.

[–] perry@lemy.lol 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The 5 rupees is inclusive of taxes and stuff. Also there are no payment processing fees in India AFAIK. At the counter you can give a 5 rupee coin or pay 5 rupees via UPI or card, and you get a receipt and token number. But paying for the medicines and public transport would cost extra, so you would be spending almost β‚Ή100 (or even β‚Ή200 if expensive antibiotics are involved) by the time you reach home.

Edit: this is only for regular illness such as the flu or COVID, and most people wouldn't use life/health insurance for that. Doing surgeries or therapy (which is still hard to find here) will cost a lot more, and insurance and stuff will likely complicate things.