Unpopular Opinion

Not true for me.

I made a joke, and someone got upset. I explained that I didn’t mean it seriously and apologized. Then they told me they were in a bad mood and apologized for their reaction.

ffs, Lemmy's strength is in it's decentralised non corpo design, not that we users are a better quality of human. It went from Usenet, to the centralised shitiness of Reddit back to a decentralised system in Lemmy/Piefed more akin to Usenet

but, I'd also argue just by being here you're a better person.

the point is lemmy is ours, not some psycho billionaire's.

I left reddit because of them imposing their cronenbergian UX on me.

Reddit has a perverse incentive to keep the user base frothing for engagement

There is no such incentive on Lemmy. We are toxic because we choose to be. All natural, free range, grassroots haters

I’d rather hang with these shitty people over here than those shitty people over there.

Excellent unpopular opinion that I disagree with! Good post for here :3

On Reddit, I was CONSTANTLY annoyed in every thread.

Award edits: annoying.

Talking about awards and upvotes: annoying.

Spamming subreddits as hashtags: annoying. Rehashing the same phrase/joke over and over again: annoying.

Fake stories in all top subreddits in /all/ used as creative writing before LLMs made even being CREATIVE obsolete yet the site was clogged with bullshit and hundreds (if not thousands) of people responding as if the stories are real: annoying.

(More recently, as of when I left Reddit when the API change was made) Majority of people bots or astroturfers/shills/etc: annoying.

I constantly was shitting in comments and people on Reddit because so many comments were just… so… horribly… stupid! Asinine! Coming from a history of communities of folks that, while being overtly overwhelmingly dumb/offensive, were at least original or creative (IRC/Usenet/LUE/SA/b/specific forums) in their commenting and posts, near the end of Reddit’s life I felt like I had to dig through more oceans of shit to find a tiny gold nugget than I did when I was heavy into /b/ in the early-to-mid 2000s.

I find that Lemmy threads have an expectantly smaller quantity of idiots, rehashed ‘clever’ one-liners in every thread, ‘creative’ writing that isn’t creative in the slightest, and overall garbage commenters. Better shitposters, more furries, better grammar, and more organic stuff overall.

That’s my opinion, anyway. Your post has a lot of downvotes for a “popular” “unpopular opinion” post here which tells me you’ve posted a good one hahaha. I do agree with some of what you’ve said—I’d like some places I can post and read some more crunchy-ass shit. Not stuff like being racist “as a joke”, but with the way the fediverse is, I’d like some NSFL stuff and places where people can be free to be more crude or whatnot. Lemmy is very “safe”, which is healthy for a lot of folks. Overall though, I’ll take “safe” over “enragingly annoying everywhere” hahaha

The Lemmy userbase is human, which is more than I can say of Reddit's.

So far I'm having a lovely experience

It's much calmer

The userbase is largely overlapping as most Lemmy users are current or former Reddit users. The difference is largely in the communities and moderation, not users...

Lemmy was never going to be a better community than reddit, because it's still redditors leaving reddit to come here. People were the problem with reddit, people are the problem with Lemmy.

That was always a given.

I don't use Lemmy much anymore nowadays because of this. While it's important an alternative to Reddit exists, so I try to support it, it ironically feels more like a hivemind than Reddit does (ironic because you'd expect the opposite for federated services). I think it's because switching to Lemmy from Reddit requires either idealism or a Reddit ban, both of which disproportionately attract people who feel good when they verbally attack internet strangers for disagreeing with them on 1% of the implicitly agreed upon joint viewpoints. It also strangely reminds me of the feeling I got being part of an old gaming community that was slowly dying out, where eventually only the unpleasant ones who defined their identity based on it were left.

I'm always happy to see there are also people here who dislike this attitude, though, or even to see neutral posts. There is still hope!

I don't know why one would expect Lemmy to be different when it's entire userbase consists of ex-redditors.

I don't think there's much difference between platforms. Everyone is performing to either get pats on the back or to stirr up something. The moment everyone around you seems nice is when you've entered the echo chamber.

I accidentally posted a link to some right wing borderline racist article which sounded sensible on first skim reading it. Commentators noted this. I apologized for not reading it carefully or noticing the other associated articles and the other Lemmy users were understanding. Just my experience but I think a nicer atmosphere prevails.

I dont know. Not that Lemmy users are necessarily great all the time, but Reddit has decayed to the point that its barely better than a generic Facebook feed.

Lemmy is hostile to nazis. Reddit coddles them.

I think you're missing the point.

People are people everywhere you go. Nowhere is free of people unless you want to be by yourself.

Lemmy and the Fediverse is not about only being around people that are exactly perfect for you to associate with.

It's about not giving your thoughts, your mental energy, and your time to build an empire for someone else to profit off of.

Idk I kinda like it here. Everybody uses linux in this place.

No, they’re not. The hivemind isn’t as bad. But there’s brigading of sorts, plenty of trolls, circlejerking, bad mods, and bad faith arguing.

I mean, that’s pretty much the internet in general, just reddit’s got much more of it by the numbers.

Well I don’t think we’re on here to appease you so shrug.

The idea that contrarianism is somehow interaction is similar.

I've frequently had people start replies with "I strongly disagree" and then proceed to say the same thing as my comment back at me.

Some people are just fighting a war in their own head.

People are people, wherever you go. People are flawed. There are many good reasons to leave reddit for lemmy.

Reddit's problem is not the userbase, nor is Lemmy's problem tankies -- even though those are the memes we like to spread here. Reddit's problem is its design, that is meant to keep you occupied in their site forever.

Unfortunately, Lemmy has inherited a part of that design, in a cargo cult way. It has patterns that were designed for companies that need to make a profit.

Why should it be better? It's not like reddit admins made reddit community what it is, the users did. And Lemmy is mostly former(and quite a bit even current) reddit users who left not because they thought it was a bad place but because reddit admins forced them to either by banning their preferred app or by banning them.

Less bots, more tankies.

I'm not sure which is worse.

I'm doing my part!

PSA: you can block users. Don't be afraid to do it. There's nothing you can say that will convince flat earthers or similar stupid people.

Some people over here can’t understand that sensitive questions can be asked without bad intent.

This just screams mott and bailey fallacy. It is very reminiscent, for example, of transphobes complaining that they get attacked for having the gall of claiming "sex is real". And that's basically what happened here. You said some upsetting shitty things in the thread about the two child policy, and now you're whining about people getting upset about it. Go touch some grass.

It depends on the server. But the nice thing is, you can pack up, walk away and move to another instance.

You are not tied to your first choice. And that is better than reddit. Go where you want to be.