Fuck AI

this is cool

you should make a post about this somewhere here on Lemmy

people should know about it

hi, i have strong feelings about the use of genai but i come at it from a very different direction (story writing). it's possible for someone to throw together a 300 page story book in an afternoon - in the style of lovecraft if they want, or brandon sanderson, or dan brown (dan brown always sounds the same and so we might not even notice). now, the assumption that i have about said 300 pager is that it will be dogshit, but art is subjective and someone out there has been beside themselves pining for it.

but this has always been true. there have always been people churning out trash hoping to turn a buck. the fact that they can do it faster now doesn't change that they're still in the trash market.

so: i keep writing. i know that my projects will be plagiarized by tech companies. i tell myself that my work is "better" than ai slop.

for you, things are different. writing code is a goal-oriented creative endeavor, but the bar for literature is enjoyment, and the bar for code is functionality. with that in mind, i have some questions:

if someone used genai to generate code snippets and they were able to verify the output, what's the problem? they used an ersatz gnome to save them some typing. if generated code is indistinguishable from human code, how does this policy work?

for code that's been flagged as ai generated- and let's assume it's obvious, they left a bunch of GPT comments all over the place- is the code bad because it's genai or is it bad because it doesn't work?

i'm interested to hear your thoughts

Thank you

That's great, thank you!
Added to my project's repo.

This is super cool!

Did want to offer one language critique, it's easy to jump to the word human as the opposite of AI-made, but there are a lot of therians and adjacent entities in the software engineering space. It would be wonderful to find language that is a pro-"human" policy that avoids that word and instead focuses on people of all sorts of identities so as not to be othering.

Sounds strange to some I'm sure, but this has been coming up more and more with coworkers I've had across several companies. It's kind of like moving from "he or she" to "they", a great example is the writings of beeps a prominent software engineer on the GOV.UK site and its accessibility https://beeps.website/about/nonhuman/

Regardless if any changes are made thanks for reading and your policy writeup, again very cool :D

“AI generated” means that the subject material is in whole, or in meaningful part, the output of a generative AI model or models, such as a Large Language Model. This does not include code that is the result of non-generative tools, such as standard compilers, linters, or basic IDE auto-completions. This does, however, include code that is the result of code block generators and automatic refactoring tools that make use of generative AI models.

As "artificial intelligence" is not that well defined, you could clarify what the policy defines "AI" as by specifying that "AI" involves machine learning.

I like this approach, but how can it be enforced? Would you have to read every line and listen to a gut feeling?

I see this excuse of burn out every time it comes to LLM use, but i honestly do not buy it. You cant tell me every other dev out there just burnt out at the same time in sync with the release of LLM coding assistants. If you use LLMs like this you simply dont care about the project anymore and should move on with your life. Its better for everyone if it gets abandoned by the original dev and forked by ones that care. Sometimes you just gotta let go.

That's cool and all, but also they obviously are not just using it to translate. Those are an LLM's words, not a human's, and it is painfully clear. It doesn't even seem like a person is "behind the wheel" at all. As soon as someone disagrees with them, they basically just apologize for "getting it wrong" and do whatever that person told them. They actually go back and forth on the naming convention based solely on the most recent comment. It's typical LLM "agree with the person no matter what" behavior.

I never liked vim. This got me to try Micro and now the only time I'm going to use Vim is if I'm forced by a remote system I can't install it or nano on. I may strip it out of my systems entirely. I really don't need something so complicated to edit the sudoers file.