this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2026
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Fuck AI

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I know this isn't wallstreetbets but I can't help but wonder if this is a more secure investment than the usual S&P500.

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[–] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 12 hours ago (3 children)
[–] int_not_found@feddit.org 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The big problem is, that you can't cut AI out of your portfolio, only businesses. Big businesses have multiple business segments. Cutting such companies out reduces your diversification much more, than just the AI portion of businesses, just because they dabble in AI with 1% of there earnings. This is a fundamental problem with these type of indices/ETFs.

You are basically betting, that you can predict better than other investors, which companies perform good in the future. Historically speaking very few people could do this reliably, and arguably they were just lucky and retired/died before they could loose.

This index is not a good tool to hedge your portfolio against the AI-crash. It's a way to cash in on the anti-ai sentiment. Fonds provider are going to license the name, because they think there are enough people out there, who want to exclude AI from there portfolio for ideological reasons, not because they have a solid financial argument against these businesses.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not investing in AI can also be an ethics thing, not just because you expect to gain more money

[–] int_not_found@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If it’s your money, it’s your call. I'm just a guy on the internet. I tried to cover your response using "ideological reasons".

All i tried doing was to answer the question given "Is this good?". And the answer is: This is neither a prediction for the future of ai nor the inception of a solid financial product, but rather a cash grab based on a currently trending sentiment.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

On the one hand, we all know AI is on a bullshit hype train headed straight for a wall.

On the other hand, I've never met anyone I trusted less than anyone associated with Goldman Sachs.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 9 hours ago

Let me introduce you to Wells Fargo

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly given how much of a Cargo Cult the finance industry is, I would expect you could outperform the market and investors far more knowledgable than you simply by refusing to be a fool about AI and get scammed by its hype.

Idk specifics here, but the logic is very sound.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 9 hours ago

The tacit assumption that troubles me is the idea that the stock market must sooner or later bow to reality in a way that is proportional to its flights of fancy. The basic ideas that underpins value investing, in other words.

Putting it mildly: I don't feel confident that can be relied upon in 21st century US markets.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I can't find it in my trading apps. Happy to look into it.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 13 points 13 hours ago

It's an index, not a product you can buy. You can either replicate it yourself in real shares or wait for some company to make an ETF tracking this index.

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

It's available exclusively to Goldman customers, created in collaboration with S&P Dow Jones Indices.