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Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

Feddit.org's explanation for this situation seems to fit into a few common variations:

  • They accept both pro- and anti-Zionist members, so it's not proof of a bias.
  • They [choose to] comply [in advance] with strict German / Swiss / Austrian laws regarding [overly broad] "antisemitic" language, or they might get in trouble.
  • Calling for the destruction of Israel must obviously mean you want to kill every last man, woman and child, rather than simply wanting to overthrow Netanyahu's genocidal fascist regime. Because [bad faith] reasons.
  • Lots of Euros (and Germans specifically) are pro-Zionist, so they feel like they have to accommodate this view.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel's ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. As such, I am calling for feddit.org to:

  • Explicitly prohibit pro-Zionist accounts from joining.
  • Take measures to resolve their claimed legal issues, e.g., moving their server location to a less regulated jurisdiction, and ensuring that admin accounts remain anonymous regarding their location.
  • Stop referring to folks who call for "Death to Israel" or similar as though they are the terrorists or violent extremists. The Zionist Israeli settlers, the murderous IDF rapists, and the entirety of the Israeli government are clearly the violent ethnostate extremists we should be worried about, not the Palestinians in Gaza who are fighting for their lives every single day against completely disproportionate levels of Zionist violence.

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again.

I've also pulled out some choice morsels from the modlog to illustrate the sort of thing we are talking about:

This one says it all... mrdown@lemmy.world being banned for calling out feddit.org users for being Zionist apologists. It's apparently "xenophobic" to state a few hard truths.

If you have had similar experiences on feddit.org, please feel free to share in the comments.

Voting instructions

I am proposing to ban the following communities from feddit.org, which seem to be the most problematic communities in terms of hosting pro-Zionist posts/comments:

Upvote this post if you want dbzer0 / anarchist nexus to ban these communities.

Downvote this post if you'd prefer not to ban these communities.

Note 1: Votes from external instances do not count, unless one of our admins has vouched for you.

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that's the better option, then we'll do that instead.

Note 3: Although I don't really expect this to happen, if feddit.org agrees to make policy changes to address these issues then we are willing to reassess the situation.

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[–] div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

Acknowledged governance topic opened by https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/flatworm7591 Early Bird: a parrot, orangered colors Jolly Roger: an icon of pirate jolly roger skull wearing a hat, in orange-red, black and white colors A book with a loaf of bread in the cover  in orange-red, black and white colors Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors First Mate: a pirate ship's steering wheel, orangered color

This is a simple majority vote. The current tally is as follows:

  • For: First Mate: a pirate ship's steering wheel, orangered color (5), Vouched: a minimalist compass icon. Orangered color (5), MVP: a star icon, in orange-red, black and white colors (1), Powder Monkey: An icon of powder barrel in orange-red, black and white colors (1), Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors (1)
  • Against: Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors Vouched: a minimalist compass icon. Orangered color Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors
  • Local Community: +0.3
  • Outsider sentiment: Supportive
  • Total: +10.3
  • Percentage: 82.00%

This vote will complete in 5 days

[–] LuhimeWired@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] no_pasaran@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Do Feddit users come here and harass communities here with Zionism to an intolerable degree? If not, I am completely against defederation. It is wrong in principle and should only be considered as a last resort. And that is not the case here. Most Feddit users are just average people who probably don't even know what Zionism means. But we're excluding them all. This also applies to blocking “only” the communities. If you don't like them, block or ignore them yourself. But don't dictate that to me.

I want the Fediverse to be as open as possible. People like you are turning it into a walled garden. Isolated, small, and insignificant. Unfortunately, this seems to be an incurable tendency among left-wingers.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Darkness343@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My first comment on platform, supporting this ban

Usually i'm passive and value balance but seeing how all world is going past 6 months i've never been more ready to take hard stand and actually make any dent i can, this is far from enough

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't get it, what does banning communities on other instances achieve? Does that mean that we won't see them?

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Precisely. And I agree that it's pretty pointless compared to a defed + censure which prevents their users from ~~participating~~ trolling in ours. And also serves as a warning to any admins using fediseer that they might want to block Feddit if they don't wish to deal with Zionists trolls.

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[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Zionism is just a fucked way of thinking. Nothing gives you more right to a home than someone else.

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[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Who needs Zionists messing up the joint? Not me. Defed 100%

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Calling for the destruction of Israel

Are our brains getting worse, or why can't we be specific anymore?

Why do we need to use the same language as extremists?

This is the same stupidity level as Trump saying "We will get rid of some politicians, you will see!!!" and later explaining that it means that the people should just not vote for them anymore, because he is great.

[–] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago

People don't say "I call for the destruction of Israel", they say stuff like "A state that does that shouldn't exist" or "let's create a nation in which the Palestinians can live peacefully". These are 'calls' for the end of the current government structure of Israel, or in other words, the destruction of the Israeli state.

The wording of the rule is purposely vague and broad, while still sounds like it is banning something harmful.

People are being specific, but the rule itself is broad. If you say "everyone involved in the genocide should be removed from office", that's specific, clear, broadly agreeable, and yet also 'calling for the destruction of the Israeli state'.

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[–] emmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Get rid of them please. Defed completely

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[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think this will raise the chances of an echo chamber happening here, and I have not seen the Zionism that you are claiming it is be as widespread as you are claiming to be. I oppose until you can convince me otherwise.

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[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My opinion is more or less that we shouldn’t cut ourselves off from big communities if their theme is not centered on endorsing crimes and if they’re not a community solely for whitewashing them / spreading disinfo.

I think a lot of German speaking users are people who have been exposed to only a narrow view of the world and that they can be valuable allies in the long run. Our instance has been relatively successful at bridging many gaps, I think it would be a shame to defederate entirely.

I’ve seen some questionable takes in places like YUROP but it’s no worse than a large enough .world thread or shjw thread.

My thoughts are unchanged since January. Strikes system for external users promoting imperialism (and the lebensrauming of me, I’m in Lebanon!) on our instance, a special text in German because of how prevalent this issue is among German people. And banning Zionists from signing up to the instance. I’m sure a fellow Arabic speaker could imagine a similar situation for antisemitism. It’s the socialism of fools after all. Surely concern trolling about women’s rights in Gaza is a sort of (subtly imperialist) feminism of fools?

I want the tent to be as big as possible. I want those who excuse these crimes to be exposed to as much common sense as possible. I don’t want them to feel like they have the mainstream opinion anymore.

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