people lack spacial awareness in the grocery store because a supermarket is an example of hostile design. it is intentionally disorienting and overloads you with information
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Just try find and track the price per kg of a good, and you are in deep shit. Its some times hidden, after several "get the app", "two for one" just to find out the good is fucking more expensive if you refuse go though the privacy invasing hoops. What the fuck happended to "Limited time offer until this actually cheap batch is sold out!"
This is the core problem, right here. At a minimum, people need training to learn what information to ignore so you can navigate the whole thing. Even if you know the store's layout, you still need to have the will to ignore advertising and disregard extraneous information. Being a fast reader that can do fast mental math, also helps tremendously.
Traffic flow is another problem. Wegmans is the chief offender here, IMO, by putting impulse items in massive crates that crowd the store entrance+exit combo. It amazes me that it's not a fire hazard, because it makes entering the store a nightmare. But most grocery stores have awful choke points in produce, dairy, meat, and other high-traffic areas. And of course those are the stores that have no small carts or hand-baskets, obligating customers to gum up the works with big metal baskets that are 70% empty.
A better idea is a store that doesn't flood your eye sockets with information you don't absolutely need. Get rid of the special displays, end-cap bullshit, and vendor promotional stuff. Then, normalize all the price tags and include unit cost per lb/oz/L/whatever to make bargain hunting a snap. Then, measure the fucking carts and make sure that two can get by everywhere in the store. Finally, pick a store layout and stick to it.
I want to say that Aldi is already doing all of the right things, but I could be wrong.
Lots of the time it is a fire hazard, but unless the Fire Marshall knows about it nothing gets done.
Fire code is usually checked when the building is built or if there's a remodel, but otherwise most places can go a long, long time without a fire inspection unless there's a specific complaint.
Reporting suspected safety issues to the Fire Marshall or Building Official is okay. You're not being a Karen. Building and Fire codes are written in response to avoidable tragedies and should be followed.
😂🫣 I feel attacked (neurodivergent)
That + worked any amount of customer service tbh
A few weeks ago I was at the store picking up a few things for my sick kid. The very first aisle I go to as I'm trying to leave it a lady pulls into the aisle to look at whatever was on the end cap and puts her cart right in the middle of the aisle so I can't get through with my cart. She saw me, we made eye contact for a second and I moved to the right of the aisle. I get to the end and she's just standing there, not even looking at stuff just looking at me waiting for her to move. After about 20 seconds I can't believe I have to say anything so I just go "excuse me" and she scoffs and says "you're fine". Another 10 seconds and I have to say it again, "excuse me I'm trying to get through" and I don't know what was going through her head but she started freaking out, "go ahead and get through then I don't know why you're standing there". So I do just that, I used my cart to push hers out of the way (very intentionally just enough to get through) and she lost it. I just proceeded on my way but even after I turned down the next asile I needed something from she was still yelling. This was like 10:30 at night, the store was almost empty so there was plently of room.
This was in an expensive grocery store in a pretty wealthy area. In contrast on my way home I stopped at the poppy shop around the corner because they have a drink I like for a good deal and there was someone who looked like they were emptying their pockets by the trash can but checking out a couple receipts before throwing them away who was blocking the door, I said excuse me when I was a few steps away and he apologized, told me to have a great night and held the door open for me.
So, you attempted regular social cues to communicate what you wanted, and when that failed you escalated to physical aggression and then got upset that the other person got upset?
Like, not trying to throw you under the bus or anything, you both miscommunicated in that situation but you were the one to escalate. If the other person didn't know what they were doing wrong, couldn't you have just told them "I'm so sorry, but I can't get my cart around yours" when they didn't get why you couldn't get past?
It really sounds like you were both tired and didn't have the grace in that moment for each other, rather than some failing on either of your parts.
"Physicial agression", what the fuck have you been smoking? They said they pushed the cart away with their carts. Nothing agressive about that, wtf.
Yes, it is. It's why they moderated that they did it as "very intentionally, just trying to get through". Moving someone or their stuff without permission is an act of physical aggression. I'm not saying they punched them or anything, but there were aggressive in a physical manner.
They would go out of business immediately. Not enough customers.
I'd go daily to hopefully help keep them open.
Can we also make people who still pay for things at a store with a check go to the bad one? It was before the pan, but I couldn't believe what I was seeing when a lady pulled out her checkbook in front of me at the checkout line. Gtf outta here.
I know the point of this thread is "ugh, people, man" and it's not really meant to be engaged with deeper than that, but this is a really bad idea. It would be used to justify racism and ableism and would be a really unpleasant place to be in, too. Karen city, with no one to speak out about it.
Imagine that spike of anxiety at the check-out where you feel rushed because you're at the front of the line, but instead of it being mostly in your head it's now a real thing with real consequences. That's my nightmare
Yeah. In fact, society is full of people who aren't getting things 100% correct and we just have to be accepting of that. So i don't like this post.
BUT: the fact that some people don't get systems like this 100% all the time is proof that we should abolish car dependency and prioritise public safety precautions. [r/FuckCars]
Agreed. Fuck cars and accept that other people aren't going to be perfect and that that's okay for them to be.
It would be used to justify racism and ableism
But how?
People walking towards each other on the sidewalk usually subconsciously move out of each other's ways. But there's a hierarchy to these interactions that you're probably only aware of if you're at the bottom of it. White people tend to resist deferring to people of color. White women will rarely defer to anyone, expecting everyone to get it of their way. People of color will defer to white people, etc, etc.
If you break this subconscious hierarchy, people notice and assume you're being rude or weird. Like if you move enough out of a white women's way so that she, too, can move a little out of your way so that you both avoid each other (like equals would do), she might just walk into you. Or cuss you out for being rude. Or when I, a white man, defer to a person of color, it trips them up for a second.
Since this hypothetical grocery store is nothing but "don't break unspoken rules about rudeness or you get kicked out" it means that a black person would need to act meek and submissive in order to avoid scrutiny and thus be able to stay. Meaning the rules would be more stringent against people of color, thus less people of color would be accepted, thus justifying their usual exclusion.
Ableism is super easy. Since this hypothetical prioritizes convenience over people, if you're slow at something or need more accommodation, you'd get kicked out.
What a fascinating work of fiction you've just created. You should use it to write a really shit short story
Such a great piece of fiction that the phenomenon I just recounted has been lived by real people before
https://www.reddit.com/r/blackladies/comments/1202192/asked_reddit_why_white_people_dont_move_for/
Am... am I god?/s
So your proof is that a couple of people on Reddit also think that?
People seem to get tunnel vision in the grocery store and ignore the dozens of people trying to move around them. I weave in and out of those groups of people quickly and try to mumble "asshole" just loud enough they can hear me as i walk by.
bro about to shid his pants from anger because a shopper didnt let him move through smoothly